[sudo-discuss] [omni-discuss] Elliot Hughes

[niki]

Why not just make a new page on the omnicommons.org wiki?

On Sun, Jan 18, 2015 at 1:26 AM, Eske Silver <eske.silver at gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks Jenny.
> We most definitely should have a place for all of these incidents to be
> available, that's more easily accessible to everyone.
>
> Maybe we can simply adapt our own format of the ban page from NoiseBridges
> site? Sone kind of wiki page where all of this info can be housed. For our
> own FYI and the consolidation of interactions (would definitely help with
> miscomms and clarifications like those above), but also for public
> awareness (STP.org has had really good response from a similar
> "Untrustworthy People" page).
> It could also be a good tool for mediation; for parties involved to be
> able to see incident testimony, etc.
>
> Shouldn't be too dificult to set up, right?
> To start, I can write up a full testimony of my interaction with drunky,
> and already have a copy involving the 4am-squatter* in the sudomtg
> archives. I know there are a few other testimonies in there, as well.
>
> Should I rewrite this as a new thread to omni discuss? What else do we
> have in place, so far, along these lines (besides sudo ban wiki, etc).
>
> Perhaps the most accessible version of this could be a direct-link via the
> front door terminal (anyone know why it's sitting idle in Sudo?).
>
> ~ Korl
>
> 500px.com/eske
> 510.689.4484
> On Jan 17, 2015 4:37 PM, "Jenny Ryan" <tunabananas at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Point of clarification:
>>
>> The drunk who jimmied the lock came back for the weekend-long fundraiser
>> kickoff. Marc informed him that he was not allowed in the space, and he got
>> upset and wouldn't leave. We called all hands on deck and surrounded him
>> but he still wouldn't leave. Then Elliot came along, grabbed him by the
>> shoulders, and threw him out the door.
>>
>> He apologized afterwards and said something to the effect of, "that guy's
>> a total asshole and was just going to waste our time."
>>
>> On 01/17/2015 02:40 PM, David Keenan wrote:
>> > Hmm...
>> >
>> > Then there was a second incident, because I did get confirmation that
>> > Elliot 'walked out' a guy who jimmied open the door with a knife - I got
>> > that confirmation from the person who was walked out and yelled at me
>> about
>> > it, so I'm pretty sure that happened..
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Sat, Jan 17, 2015 at 12:35 PM, niki <niki.shelley at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > > I never heard about this incident.
>> > >
>> > > Can we create a place to report these kinds of things - maybe a
>> separate
>> > > list.
>> > >
>> > > I think it's important that the community is alerted when stuff like
>> this
>> > > happens.
>> > >
>> > > Did I miss something, maybe? Sorry!
>> > >
>> > > N
>> > >
>> > > On Sat, Jan 17, 2015 at 11:05 AM, Eske Silver <eske.silver at gmail.com>
>> > > wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> Elliot was not involved in the incident where I interacted with the
>> > >> intoxicated person who had a knife in the door, and was verbally
>> abusive.
>> > >> I enjoy the telephone game, same as anyone, but it seems this is one
>> > >> story worthy of clarification.
>> > >> The drunky, Pidgeon, Noah, one other sudoer, and I were there.
>> > >>
>> > >> ~ Korl
>> > >>
>> > >> 500px.com/eske
>> > >> 510.689.4484
>> > >> On Jan 16, 2015 4:59 PM, "Ryan" <yandoryn at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >>> Sudo's meetings are at the same time, the same place, every week.
>> > >>> Wednesday, 7 pm, Sudo Room.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Matt just said that he's going to bring it up at the next meeting.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 4:55 PM, joseph liesner <blue393 at lmi.net>
>> wrote:
>> > >>>
>> > >>>> When I was corrected for calling Elliot my comrade I
>> > >>>> thought well I don't know, yet, what happened with them
>> > >>>> so sould I trust others (as I have been advised to in the past)
>> > >>>> and no longer consider them a comrade.  It didn't feel right;
>> > >>>> and I think that is why his banning feels so strange to me.
>> > >>>> Then, finally, at post # 24 DK adds some important specifics.
>> > >>>> So I am requesting that the Sudoroom meeting where Elliot' s
>> > >>>> banning is discussed be announced on Discuss well in advance of
>> > >>>> it's happening.
>> > >>>> Tahnks
>> > >>>> joe
>> > >>>> On Jan 15, 2015, at 11:44 AM, Eske Silver wrote:
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> Sent this a couple days go, but I forgot to hit 'reply all':
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> True, though, that we have parted ways with members, and guests,
>> for
>> > >>>> less than [multiple physical incidents?] - comrade or not.
>> > >>>> While case-by-case is my prefered language, I also always stand by
>> a
>> > >>>> Zero Tolerance for abuse toward another loving being.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> From what I've read, this seems the logical mean answer:
>> > >>>> For the sake of Safer Spaces, let's ask that Elliot appreciate a
>> > >>>> request that they take leave, until we find a resolution...
>> > >>>> For the sake of nuance and case-by-case, I'd bet we could find
>> someone
>> > >>>> who's known Elliot for a handful of human time increments, who
>> would be so
>> > >>>> kind as to reach out to Elliot. This person might then glean
>> what's going
>> > >>>> on with Elliot, and how he feels we (all) should/can procede with
>> these
>> > >>>> issues.
>> > >>>> Then, for the sake of precident, if Elliot is willing and able, we
>> can
>> > >>>> follow the guide and set on to conflict resolution...
>> > >>>> The rest is (in theory) easy, I'd say.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> Any edits?
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> ~ Korl
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> ~ Korl
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> 500px.com/eske
>> > >>>> 510.689.4484
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
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>> > >>>>
>> > >>>
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