[sudo-discuss] [BAPS-Organizing] Re: [omni-discuss] Replacing the term "bottom-liner" with..?

[Matthew Senate]

some more hopefully-less-hierarchical-terms:

* responsibili-buddy
* point-of-contact
* liaison
* ambassador
* confidant
* advocate
* messenger
* intermediary
* connection
* fixer
* agent
* emissary
* promoter
* producer

Perhaps "producer" is subtly honest, "responsibili-buddy" is most fun to
pronounce, and "coordinator" is the closest practical analog to the current
"bottom-liner"?

// Matt

p.s. "Advocate" goes in a totally different direction, maybe worth some
consideration...


On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 11:06 AM, niki <niki.shelley at gmail.com> wrote:

> I don't know who you are, Ed Rippy, but I can't wait to meet you IRL!
>
> Love these thoughts and hope we can expand on them / work to develop
> actionable solutions / experiments.
>
> <3
>
> Niki
>
> On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 11:06 PM, Ed Rippy <ed.rippy at mindspring.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> On 01/11/2015 10:17 PM, Michael Nicoloff wrote:
>>
>>> I know on the BAPS side of things there's been on-and-off problems with
>>> finding enough people to bottom-line classes, and that often the duties of
>>> bottom-lining have unevenly fallen on a few key people, so that even if the
>>> name bottom-liner hasn't struck me as a problem, the organizing practice
>>> has at times felt built on shaky ground. What in theory is a non-coercive,
>>> equal, from-each-to-each kind of horizontalism becomes not so much that in
>>> practice, with responsibility (and power) concentrating/burdening a small
>>> number of folks.
>>>
>>
>> -- This always happens. Democracy is a great ideal, & it wd be even
>> greater if our fundamental equality as human beans translated into equality
>> of work output. It doesn't for a lot of reasons. This is the toughest part
>> of the whole process.
>>
>>    The only way to reduce this problem is for more people to step up.
>> This is very tough, because pretty much all of us are overextended anyway,
>> but it's still crucial. We all grow up in a society where just about
>> everything happens because someone gets paid to bottomline it. If we want
>> to create an alternative we need to deprogram ourselves & realize that
>> there ain't no-one else to do it. Many of us are also programmed to feel
>> that we aren't good enough and can't be 'leaders.' This is what we have to
>> transform if sudo room or omni is gonna survive. Unfortunately I can't
>> offer a whole lot myself, but I'll think of something. One thing I've
>> learned is that little things add up.
>>
>>    We need to know ea. other & trust ea. other if we're really going to
>> work together. And we need to believe that our efforts will actually pay
>> off -- that they'll be well received & help create some great experience.
>>
>>
>>> So I feel like lurking under concerns about the name are questions of
>>> organization, of how to ensure a horizontalism not just in name but also in
>>> reality, and so it seems like any discussion of renaming the bottom-liner
>>> task is also going to have to take a real look at our practices as
>>> collectives. Maybe I'm getting a little far afield here, but it seems like
>>> pulling on the thread of what to call what we're calling a bottom-liner
>>> pulls a lot of other issues with it.
>>>
>> -- Me 2. The term "bottom-liner" has gotten pretty traditional, & I can't
>> think of any great alternatives. "Project Manager?" Gack. We can change the
>> name if we like, but IMO it's more important to talk about what the
>> bottlenecks are & how we can be creative working together so more people
>> feel like getting involved. I'm a newb here so I don't know the
>> issues/specifics, but I've been an activist long enough to know the
>> pattern. We need to hack our mindsets so that we all see a little bit of
>> organizing/bottomlining here & there as part of a fun life.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Ed Rippy
>>
>>
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