[sudo-discuss] Elevator Upgrade

[David Keenan]

Melissa tells me BAPS did not in fact get a rent increase.

Matt, can you confirm this is also true on your end?

On Monday, January 6, 2014, Chris Bee wrote:

> Well, sure, we all want a safer elevator...but at the expense of George
> running roughshod over any semblance of normal landlord/tenant relations?
>
> If the bargaining chip involved George voluntarily attending anger
> management classes and acting on the concerns of his tenants in the future
> in a responsible and rational manner, I'd probably give it a pass....but
> whenever someone lets him get away with shady/illogical shit, in my mind
> it's the same as tacit approval.
>
> I don't want to troll or be the devil's advocate but I agree with yar...if
> he wants it that bad, let's put it in writing then take it from there.
>
> -chrisbee
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 6:26 PM, Matthew Senate <mattsenate at gmail.com>wrote:
>
> That being said, I appreciate taking William's assessment into
> consideration, especially given he is also a tenant.
>
> Further, thinking tactically, do we want the elevator to be safer and
> break down less regularly? Perhaps we could negotiate. This is an option.
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 2:24 PM, Hol Gaskill <hol at gaskill.com> wrote:
>
> I think this has gone far enough.  I like yar's idea to get his request in
> writing, and respond negative very clearly in writing.
>
> I volunteer to participate in any face to face discussions with our
> landlords if needed - we need to address all such unacceptable proposals
> squarely.
>
> cheers
>
>
> Jan 4, 2014 03:36:42 PM, hotelcompany at gmail.com wrote:
> The (not so) funny thing is that this request comes on the heels of a rent
> hike.
> >
> >If I were the one being asked, what I would say would be "Sorry, not my
> building, not my problem, good luck." What I would WANT to say is "Unless
> you agree that I can take the parts out of the elevator that I'm paying for
> with me when I move out- or, better yet, be reimbursed for them- I would
> sooner free climb the outside wall with my bike in my teeth in a hailstorm
> before covering your ends."
> >
>
> >There's something about this guy that brings out the troll in me. Not
> that I would ever act on it but...it's like, you're A FUCKING LANDLORD,
> behave like one. A few years back I had a bad run-in extremely
> sketchy/irrational landlord who was sort of like the female version of
> George, so maybe it's PTSD. Who knows.
> >
>
> >BTW, I'm sure everyone here realizes that what I'm saying is (mostly) in
> levity....I would love to straighten the guy out personally, but I don't
> see what purpose it would serve other than giving him a real reason to yell
> at somebody and we obviously don't want that.
> >
>
> >-chrisbee
> >
> >
> >On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 11:06 AM, David Keenan dkeenan44 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
>
> >I've given it some thought and can definitely understand the inclination
> to help George out in the interest of improving our relations, but it's
> just that, in my own experience doing that - buying goodwill with
> George with cash, or favors large and small i.e. free labor - doesn't
> actually work..he just forgets basically, or takes it for granted totally,
> i.e. comes to expect it, and in a week he will be again yelling at one of
> us about anything thats on his mind, or dragging garbage all over the
> space, and continuing to use our trash service for the entire building,
> and unilaterally shutting off the AC which we cant turn back on unless he
> accidentally leaves the roof access open...and basically you know, doing
> whatever the hell he wants regardless of how it affects us. This is a guy
> who regularly yells at me or hangs up on me while i am in the very act of
> helping him. Laurie is not the greatest but she is not like that, and I
> would kick down if it was just her running the building. But it's George's
> building, and his general inclination seems to be to treat his
> tenants poorly, and this goes for every tenant in the building (Ive talked
> with all of them), not just BAPS/Sudo.
>
>
> >I think we should tell him our combined discretionary funds have already
> been allotted to the rent increase.
> >best,david
>
> >On Saturday, January 4, 2014, niki  wrote:
> >
>
> >
> >I second that emotion.
> >Niki
>
>
> >
> >On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 9:56 AM, Chris Bee hotelcompany at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
>
>
> >So in addition to the rent, utilities and the myriad odd jobs - on second
> thought, let's call them "favors" since the word "job" usually implies
> compensation- he now expects sudo/BAPS to cover the overhead costs on HIS
> building? The man has no shame.
> >
>
>
>
>
> >I know! Tell him that since the 3% rent increase will add up to around
> $500 by the end of the year, he
>
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