[sudo-discuss] Elevator Upgrade

[Chris Bee]

Well, sure, we all want a safer elevator...but at the expense of George
running roughshod over any semblance of normal landlord/tenant relations?

If the bargaining chip involved George voluntarily attending anger
management classes and acting on the concerns of his tenants in the future
in a responsible and rational manner, I'd probably give it a pass....but
whenever someone lets him get away with shady/illogical shit, in my mind
it's the same as tacit approval.

I don't want to troll or be the devil's advocate but I agree with yar...if
he wants it that bad, let's put it in writing then take it from there.

-chrisbee


On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 6:26 PM, Matthew Senate <mattsenate at gmail.com> wrote:

> That being said, I appreciate taking William's assessment into
> consideration, especially given he is also a tenant.
>
> Further, thinking tactically, do we want the elevator to be safer and
> break down less regularly? Perhaps we could negotiate. This is an option.
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 2:24 PM, Hol Gaskill <hol at gaskill.com> wrote:
>
>> I think this has gone far enough.  I like yar's idea to get his request
>> in writing, and respond negative very clearly in writing.
>>
>> I volunteer to participate in any face to face discussions with our
>> landlords if needed - we need to address all such unacceptable proposals
>> squarely.
>>
>> cheers
>>
>>
>> Jan 4, 2014 03:36:42 PM, hotelcompany at gmail.com wrote:
>> The (not so) funny thing is that this request comes on the heels of a
>> rent hike.
>> >
>> >If I were the one being asked, what I would say would be "Sorry, not my
>> building, not my problem, good luck." What I would WANT to say is "Unless
>> you agree that I can take the parts out of the elevator that I'm paying for
>> with me when I move out- or, better yet, be reimbursed for them- I would
>> sooner free climb the outside wall with my bike in my teeth in a hailstorm
>> before covering your ends."
>> >
>>
>> >There's something about this guy that brings out the troll in me. Not
>> that I would ever act on it but...it's like, you're A FUCKING LANDLORD,
>> behave like one. A few years back I had a bad run-in extremely
>> sketchy/irrational landlord who was sort of like the female version of
>> George, so maybe it's PTSD. Who knows.
>> >
>>
>> >BTW, I'm sure everyone here realizes that what I'm saying is (mostly) in
>> levity....I would love to straighten the guy out personally, but I don't
>> see what purpose it would serve other than giving him a real reason to yell
>> at somebody and we obviously don't want that.
>> >
>>
>> >-chrisbee
>> >
>> >
>> >On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 11:06 AM, David Keenan dkeenan44 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>>
>> >I've given it some thought and can definitely understand the inclination
>> to help George out in the interest of improving our relations, but it's
>> just that, in my own experience doing that - buying goodwill with
>> George with cash, or favors large and small i.e. free labor - doesn't
>> actually work..he just forgets basically, or takes it for granted totally,
>> i.e. comes to expect it, and in a week he will be again yelling at one of
>> us about anything thats on his mind, or dragging garbage all over the
>> space, and continuing to use our trash service for the entire building,
>> and unilaterally shutting off the AC which we cant turn back on unless he
>> accidentally leaves the roof access open...and basically you know, doing
>> whatever the hell he wants regardless of how it affects us. This is a guy
>> who regularly yells at me or hangs up on me while i am in the very act of
>> helping him. Laurie is not the greatest but she is not like that, and I
>> would kick down if it was just her running the building. But it's George's
>> building, and his general inclination seems to be to treat his
>> tenants poorly, and this goes for every tenant in the building (Ive talked
>> with all of them), not just BAPS/Sudo.
>>
>>
>> >I think we should tell him our combined discretionary funds have already
>> been allotted to the rent increase.
>> >best,david
>>
>> >On Saturday, January 4, 2014, niki  wrote:
>> >
>>
>> >
>> >I second that emotion.
>> >Niki
>>
>>
>> >
>> >On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 9:56 AM, Chris Bee hotelcompany at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>>
>>
>> >So in addition to the rent, utilities and the myriad odd jobs - on
>> second thought, let's call them "favors" since the word "job" usually
>> implies compensation- he now expects sudo/BAPS to cover the overhead costs
>> on HIS building? The man has no shame.
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> >I know! Tell him that since the 3% rent increase will add up to around
>> $500 by the end of the year, he'll double down if he can hold out till next
>> December...and that if you were to pony up that you expect, at the very
>> least, a brass plaque mounted inside the elevator listing all of the donors
>> that made this ride possible. Or that we have a time machine in beta
>> testing and that "where we're going we don't need elevators" while stuffing
>> compost into your backpack.
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> >In other words, anything but "yes."
>> >
>> >-chrisbee
>> >
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