[sudo-discuss] Incident Saturday

Louis Huang louis.huang at aegia.nu
Tue Sep 10 00:05:11 PDT 2013 

I agree with Liberty.

Sudoroom is a great hackerspace, and with the relationship next to the 
Public School, the sciences and humanities meet on occasions with 
interdisciplinary (humanities + science) communal events that are all 
the more refreshing.

If we were to leave, we might want to talk it over with the Public 
School too (if it isn't already happening).


-Louis

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On 2013-09-09 19:00, Liberty Madison wrote:
> It makes no sense moving Sudo into another room at 2141 as long as it
> is govern by George. We need to relocate Sudo. I will be looking at
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> On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 4:27 PM, Hol Gaskill <hol at gaskill.com> wrote:
> 
>> you mean pack up all our space mining equipment and scatter among the 
>> stars in search of a new homeworld?
>> 
>> Sep 9, 2013 04:12:40 PM, andrew at roshambomedia.com wrote:
>> In complete agreement that Sudo cannot survive 2141 broadway. I would 
>> also like to bring to the table the idea that we have two issues: 2141 
>> and finding a new space. I don't think leaving 2141 needs to be 
>> contingent on finding somthing new. Events can be spread across 
>> different venues while sudo members focus on finding a perminent 
>> space. We could even rent a smaller room in 2141 while this happends.
>> 
>> Just putting it out there...
>> 
>> On Sep 9, 2013 2:52 PM, "Yardena Cohen" yardenack at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>> Sorry for being slow in documenting this, but the community deserves
>>> 
>> to know that this happened.
>>> 
>> 
>>> 
>> Sometime on Friday night, the men's bathroom was vandalized. I feel
>>> 
>> confident that it was an art-murmur walk-in, but there is no way to
>>> 
>> know for sure. They spread human feces along the walls creating what
>>> 
>> appeared to be two swastika shapes - not entirely faithful renditions
>>> 
>> but enough to reasonably perceive swastikas in them.
>>> 
>> 
>>> 
>> I learned of this when I came to set up my TIL Saturday around noon.
>>> 
>> Our landlord George showed it to me. He was understandably upset, 
>> both
>>> 
>> about having to clean up the mess and also about the symbolism. His
>>> 
>> father is Jewish. He wondered if he had been targeted. I also was not
>>> 
>> happy, as a queer Jew with many family members in Yad Vashem.
>>> 
>> 
>>> 
>> Unfortunately, this caused him to descend into another tirade in 
>> which
>>> 
>> nobody was spared. He assumed right away it was done by a Sudoroom
>>> 
>> member. There was a clear path of association that went: Sudoroom ->
>>> 
>> anarchists -> Nazis. At one point he even suggested that a kid from
>>> 
>> Sudo Kids had "come back to finish the job". But mostly he accused
>>> 
>> Sudo members. Since I was representing Sudoroom in this conversation,
>>> 
>> he ended up addressing me over and over as if I was personally
>>> 
>> responsible for this swastika, as if I had done it myself. I actually
>>> 
>> found this to be the most traumatic part of the whole event. Not even
>>> 
>> offensive, just downright traumatic.
>>> 
>> 
>>> 
>> There was the usual fare of yelling about money and society and his
>>> 
>> inability to find good tenants. He twice informed me that he was
>>> 
>> evicting both Sudoroom and the Public School and that Laurie would
>>> 
>> prepare a 30 days notice. He's said that before. He told me that
>>> 
>> Sudoroom and Public School should close their doors for the rest of
>>> 
>> the day, because "If I see any of them, I will beat them up!" I told
>>> 
>> him I'm sorry, but I have a Linux class scheduled for 2:00, please
>>> 
>> don't beat them up. That calmed him down a little. In short, the rant
>>> 
>> was a mix of old and new.
>>> 
>> 
>>> 
>> Except this time Laurie was there. Laurie is our other landlord - she
>>> 
>> is George's wife and they own the building equally. The way he talked
>>> 
>> to her during this rant was very revealing, because she also became a
>>> 
>> target. He yelled at her for not having a 30-days notice already
>>> 
>> prepared, for having written the craigslist ads that attracted
>>> 
>> Sudoroom and Public School (and, incidentally, many of his other
>>> 
>> tenants). He said quite hurtful things to her, including that she was
>>> 
>> nothing but a drain on his life and that he wanted a divorce from 
>> her.
>>> 
>> 
>>> 
>> She just stood there quietly saying nothing, holding their dog on a
>>> 
>> leash, looking at me with eyes that said "I'm sorry you have to see
>>> 
>> this." After a while, when George left the room, she apologized to 
>> me.
>>> 
>> She said "please don't listen to anything he said, he just gets that
>>> 
>> way when his buttons are pushed."
>>> 
>> 
>>> 
>> They ended up not leaving for a couple hours. Initially George 
>> refused
>>> 
>> to clean the bathroom or let anybody else clean it because he wanted
>>> 
>> to show evidence to the cops, who he believed would show up to
>>> 
>> investigate. It took a chorus of Laurie and several of his other
>>> 
>> tenants to convince him that OPD doesn't show up for things like 
>> this,
>>> 
>> the cops aren't coming, the bathroom smells, please let's just clean
>>> 
>> it up. Eventually he lost steam and they left.
>>> 
>> 
>>> 
>> I'm not really sure how to wrap up this email. Writing it was
>>> 
>> difficult. You will have to draw your own conclusions.
>>> 
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