[sudo-discuss] Incident Saturday

Mon Sep 9 17:12:22 PDT 2013

I must admit our location now is simply perfect!

On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 5:00 PM, Liberty Madison
<liberty at libertymadison.com>wrote:

> It makes no sense moving Sudo into another room at 2141 as long as it is
> govern by George. We need to relocate Sudo. I will be looking at locations
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> On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 4:27 PM, Hol Gaskill <hol at gaskill.com> wrote:
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>> you mean pack up all our space mining equipment and scatter among the
>> stars in search of a new homeworld?
>>
>>
>> Sep 9, 2013 04:12:40 PM, andrew at roshambomedia.com wrote:
>> In complete agreement that Sudo cannot survive 2141 broadway. I would
>> also like to bring to the table the idea that we have two issues: 2141 and
>> finding a new space. I don't think leaving 2141 needs to be contingent on
>> finding somthing new. Events can be spread across different venues while
>> sudo members focus on finding a perminent space. We could even rent a
>> smaller room in 2141 while this happends.
>>
>>
>> Just putting it out there...
>>
>> On Sep 9, 2013 2:52 PM, "Yardena Cohen" yardenack at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
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>> Sorry for being slow in documenting this, but the community deserves
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>> to know that this happened.
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>>
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>> Sometime on Friday night, the men's bathroom was vandalized. I feel
>> >
>> confident that it was an art-murmur walk-in, but there is no way to
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>> know for sure. They spread human feces along the walls creating what
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>> appeared to be two swastika shapes - not entirely faithful renditions
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>> but enough to reasonably perceive swastikas in them.
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>>
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>> I learned of this when I came to set up my TIL Saturday around noon.
>> >
>> Our landlord George showed it to me. He was understandably upset, both
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>> about having to clean up the mess and also about the symbolism. His
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>> father is Jewish. He wondered if he had been targeted. I also was not
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>> happy, as a queer Jew with many family members in Yad Vashem.
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>>
>> >
>> Unfortunately, this caused him to descend into another tirade in which
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>> nobody was spared. He assumed right away it was done by a Sudoroom
>> >
>> member. There was a clear path of association that went: Sudoroom ->
>> >
>> anarchists -> Nazis. At one point he even suggested that a kid from
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>> Sudo Kids had "come back to finish the job". But mostly he accused
>> >
>> Sudo members. Since I was representing Sudoroom in this conversation,
>> >
>> he ended up addressing me over and over as if I was personally
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>> responsible for this swastika, as if I had done it myself. I actually
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>> found this to be the most traumatic part of the whole event. Not even
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>> offensive, just downright traumatic.
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>>
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>> There was the usual fare of yelling about money and society and his
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>> inability to find good tenants. He twice informed me that he was
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>> evicting both Sudoroom and the Public School and that Laurie would
>> >
>> prepare a 30 days notice. He's said that before. He told me that
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>> Sudoroom and Public School should close their doors for the rest of
>> >
>> the day, because "If I see any of them, I will beat them up!" I told
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>> him I'm sorry, but I have a Linux class scheduled for 2:00, please
>> >
>> don't beat them up. That calmed him down a little. In short, the rant
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>> was a mix of old and new.
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>>
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>> Except this time Laurie was there. Laurie is our other landlord - she
>> >
>> is George's wife and they own the building equally. The way he talked
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>> to her during this rant was very revealing, because she also became a
>> >
>> target. He yelled at her for not having a 30-days notice already
>> >
>> prepared, for having written the craigslist ads that attracted
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>> Sudoroom and Public School (and, incidentally, many of his other
>> >
>> tenants). He said quite hurtful things to her, including that she was
>> >
>> nothing but a drain on his life and that he wanted a divorce from her.
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>>
>> >
>> She just stood there quietly saying nothing, holding their dog on a
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>> leash, looking at me with eyes that said "I'm sorry you have to see
>> >
>> this." After a while, when George left the room, she apologized to me.
>> >
>> She said "please don't listen to anything he said, he just gets that
>> >
>> way when his buttons are pushed."
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>>
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>> They ended up not leaving for a couple hours. Initially George refused
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>> to clean the bathroom or let anybody else clean it because he wanted
>> >
>> to show evidence to the cops, who he believed would show up to
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>> investigate. It took a chorus of Laurie and several of his other
>> >
>> tenants to convince him that OPD doesn't show up for things like this,
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>> the cops aren't coming, the bathroom smells, please let's just clean
>> >
>> it up. Eventually he lost steam and they left.
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>>
>> >
>> I'm not really sure how to wrap up this email. Writing it was
>> >
>> difficult. You will have to draw your own conclusions.
>> >
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