[sudo-discuss] Meeting Notes 11-13-13 - Juice and Paranoia in Sudoland

Wed Nov 13 23:31:49 PST 2013

In what's being called an "incident of provocation" sudoers cathartically
purged their souls of paranoid fears, and imbibed a Class-C schedule Drug -
Vitamin C in lethal amounts. 3 pinneapples, 12 bananas, 25 apples, 60
pears, and clod of celery.
-notconfusing

Meeting Minutes
https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Meeting_Notes_2013-11-13
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Icebreaker: Give an example of how you are paranoid about security, or in
general.

Attendees:
    Max - wireless charging in toothbrush
    Daniel - whiteboard at home with a circle in the middle about privacy,
maybe privacy is already lost
    Ed (einstein) - "not paranoia they really are out to get us"
    Matt - "people's safety"

   - Vicky - "losing my memory"

   - JC - "leave no digital trace" <-- until now

   - Anca - Jehan's mom visiting from Vermont - "cool housing community"

   - Tony - "texting while driving"

   - Elvin - paranoid about how social websites can log you into every
   website ever.

   - Marc - "wipe my harddrive and install a clean os before crossing a
   border"

   - Rhodey - autocompletion on security

   - yar - http://3g2upl4pq6kufc4m.onion/?q=tor+bug+tracker

   - Line 16 - speaking in short sentences

   - Diku - "pitiless gaze of the future staring down at us." "lots of
   stray humans"

   - Dante - "posting stuff online"

   - Sam - "all my software efforts are in vain, because of hardware
   chipping"

   - Brandon - careful about porn more than anything.

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1. Announcements

   - Events for this week: https://sudoroom.org/calendar

   - Review the events for this week--what's happening?

   - Rackspace maybe wants to give us money?

   - We were recommended for a grant ;)

   - but requires W-9 forms, do we have that?

   - for the w-9 we need the board of directors (true? - unknown)

   - apparently there are still options

   - grant is approx $4000

   - not 100% we would get it, but quite likely

   - Update on The Omni

   - The omni a space

   - everyone at a previous meeting agreed it was a good idea to pursue it
   further

   - its more difficult to buy, business mortgages apparently need 30-50%
   of 1.9million. lease at $13,000 per month for two years

   - Marc is getting more info from owner before he can propose a consensus
   item.

   - leasing triple-net means you are more responsible than a regular
   tennant.

   - updates to the wiki

   - Vicky is a superhero with regards to the wiki

   - categorizing the wiki into events/projects/stubs'

   - "the tortoise will win the race"

   - yar - "our long term goal is to turn the wiki into the front
page"noisebridge-style

   - vicky invites people to work with her - on vicky time. (STOP. It's
   Vicky time.)

   - Board ratification is delayed in favor of antidramatic juice-a-thon

   - regret to inform beloved room that faust will not be accepting
   nomination at this time, due to unfortunate conflict; she hopes that this
   opportunity presents itself again in the future.  she also expects to be
   there, albeit late, with cake.

   - julio accepts nomination

   - Y u no
   http://www.walmartstores.com/sites/annualreport/2008/_images/pic_board_of_directors.jpg?

   - everyone not privy to this drama is thinking "thank goodness"

   - *It should look more like this: *
   *http://www.shtig.net/consensus_spiral_4web_med.jpg*<http://www.shtig.net/consensus_spiral_4web_med.jpg>

   - New color laser printer :D

   - consent to spend less than $200 for the printer for toner

   - if someone wanted to donate.

   - it's awesome!

   - Are we incorporated? Can we start getting a real bank account and
   moving services off members' private credit cards?

   - Matt investigated a couple of credit unions. Makes a recommendation:

   - Do get an Internet Archive Federal Credit Union account (don't use it
   for too much)

   - Must pay for frequent debit transactions

   - Most services take charges.

   - Do get a Patelco Federal Credit Union account (use for debit, bills)

   - Skip

   - People's Federal Credit Union

   - Cooperative Federal Credit Union

   - "note that with credit unions you can often do transactions at a
   credit union not yours and have them post to yours, they are in cahoots as
   credit unions" - faust

   - we have 2 bitcoins, marc controls the wallet but will transfer it to
   us as soon as there is an "us"

   - rhodey - if theres no penalty for just  go for it

   - Update from Timon and Marc on alcohol permit situation

   - Timon- Marc was right

   - get smashed for $35 with an average of 3 days noticed.

   - $35 with 3 days notice

   - Thankstaking potluck?

   - faust is in, ok faust, take it.

   - seeking date/time/deets

2. Articles of Incorporation

   - not approving board of directors (see above)

3. Finances

   - all our new cash == standing funds. hands off, act normal.

   - no exchequer? no bank balance info?

   - current exchequer team does not currently have access to online bank
   account (can't wait to move to patelco!). check from soex on its way after
   completion of contract, w-9, signatures, which will be presented to the
   group at the next meeting.

4. conflict resolution

   - Timon - constable/conflict steward. The conflict that neither of the
   two parties wanted to bring t o us. Elliot and Shake. Timon noted them,
   both of them declined to meet officially.

   - Shake is showing good faith by sharing some perspective.

   - the private portion is proceeding.

   - Shake speaks - he likes sudo room - he helped dj. at some point he was
   just working and elliot asked questions about an occupy oakland. he felt
   like he did explain to elliot, they even went outside. he felt like he
   wasn't welcome any more. then he found out he had a conflict on the agenda.
   "keep in mind that i do not want anyone to be uncomfortable because of me".
   says that because he is a political figure that there will always be
   oppoonents. now feels uncomfortable because he doesn't understand that why
   elliot.  gives a message that he wants to be here and help

   - Eventually, sudo came around to realize that our actions during the
   meeting are not the best execution and interpretation of our Conflict
   Resolution procedure of the Articles of Association, ending the
   conversation about the details of any specific conflicts.

   - tl;dr shake tried his best but we can't do anything because the other
   person never showed up

   - If anyone has a conflict or wants to resolve things they may have
   heard or speculate with other members, reach out to the person in question,
   or find another sudoer to act as a mediator.

mate made $128

5. After- Meeting Teamups

   - bank teamupu

   - juice meetup

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6. Action Items

   - marc  -to investigate printer recoup cost

   - to message ar

   - timon -message art murmur mailing list about alcohol license

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7. Additional Notes
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