[sudo-discuss] Meeting Notes 11-13-13 - Juice and Paranoia in Sudoland

Thu Nov 14 01:25:37 PST 2013

Yes, you can call it paranoia. But not an incident of provocation.

You'll have to excuse my feeling like there's a deliberate campaign to exclude my participation, but I've had a hard week with hours of Sudo mediation. And then finding out how close to being finalized the Omni move is, a lot of stuff that's been going on felt even more shady than they already were. 

This past week - I discovered my confidential private emails posted by a Sudo member containing sensitive medical information about my wife, and then seeing them deleted; https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Conflicts/
and also learned that last week's meeting intentionally introduced a consensus vote on IRC founder until after I left the meeting - 2 hours in;
https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Talk:Meeting_Notes_2013-11-06

Thank you for the increased transparency in regards to this meeting and the Omni purchase.

If there is any provocation, it is to remain true to our values of transparency and good faith. 
I apologize to those who felt provoked - I was focused on the checks and balances dynamics and gave off what immediately felt like a regrettable tone after pressing send.
It is not my aim to be popular in this group, but I am also not seeking to make enemies. I know many of you and each of you I know, I respect and admire. I
So if my paranoia even indirectly leads to better information practices for Sudo Room, I would be quite satisfied.

A relief for many of you I'm sure, I am unsubscribing from the sudo-discuss list. 
I still hope to contribute somehow within the Sudo Room constellation of projects.

On Nov 13, 2013, at 11:31 PM, Max Klein <isalix at gmail.com> wrote:

> In what's being called an "incident of provocation" sudoers cathartically purged their souls of paranoid fears, and imbibed a Class-C schedule Drug - Vitamin C in lethal amounts. 3 pinneapples, 12 bananas, 25 apples, 60 pears, and clod of celery.
> -notconfusing
> 
> 
> Meeting Minutes
> https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Meeting_Notes_2013-11-13
> ------------------------
> 
> 
> Icebreaker: Give an example of how you are paranoid about security, or in general.
> 
> Attendees: 
>     Max - wireless charging in toothbrush
>     Daniel - whiteboard at home with a circle in the middle about privacy, maybe privacy is already lost
>     Ed (einstein) - "not paranoia they really are out to get us"
>     Matt - "people's safety"
> Vicky - "losing my memory"
> JC - "leave no digital trace" <-- until now
> Anca - Jehan's mom visiting from Vermont - "cool housing community" 
> Tony - "texting while driving"
> Elvin - paranoid about how social websites can log you into every website ever.
> Marc - "wipe my harddrive and install a clean os before crossing a border"
> Rhodey - autocompletion on security
> yar - http://3g2upl4pq6kufc4m.onion/?q=tor+bug+tracker
> Line 16 - speaking in short sentences
> Diku - "pitiless gaze of the future staring down at us." "lots of stray humans"
> Dante - "posting stuff online"
> Sam - "all my software efforts are in vain, because of hardware chipping"
> Brandon - careful about porn more than anything.
> 
> 1. Announcements
> Events for this week: https://sudoroom.org/calendar
> Review the events for this week--what's happening?
> Rackspace maybe wants to give us money?
> We were recommended for a grant ;)
> but requires W-9 forms, do we have that?
> for the w-9 we need the board of directors (true? - unknown)
> apparently there are still options
> grant is approx $4000
> not 100% we would get it, but quite likely
> Update on The Omni
> The omni a space
> everyone at a previous meeting agreed it was a good idea to pursue it further
> its more difficult to buy, business mortgages apparently need 30-50% of 1.9million. lease at $13,000 per month for two years
> Marc is getting more info from owner before he can propose a consensus item.
> leasing triple-net means you are more responsible than a regular tennant.
> updates to the wiki
> Vicky is a superhero with regards to the wiki
> categorizing the wiki into events/projects/stubs'
> "the tortoise will win the race"
> yar - "our long term goal is to turn the wiki into the front page" noisebridge-style
> vicky invites people to work with her - on vicky time. (STOP. It's Vicky time.)
> Board ratification is delayed in favor of antidramatic juice-a-thon
> regret to inform beloved room that faust will not be accepting nomination at this time, due to unfortunate conflict; she hopes that this opportunity presents itself again in the future.  she also expects to be there, albeit late, with cake.
> julio accepts nomination
> Y u no http://www.walmartstores.com/sites/annualreport/2008/_images/pic_board_of_directors.jpg ?
> everyone not privy to this drama is thinking "thank goodness"
> It should look more like this: http://www.shtig.net/consensus_spiral_4web_med.jpg
> New color laser printer :D
> consent to spend less than $200 for the printer for toner
> if someone wanted to donate.
> it's awesome!
> Are we incorporated? Can we start getting a real bank account and moving services off members' private credit cards?
> Matt investigated a couple of credit unions. Makes a recommendation:
> Do get an Internet Archive Federal Credit Union account (don't use it for too much)
> Must pay for frequent debit transactions
> Most services take charges.
> Do get a Patelco Federal Credit Union account (use for debit, bills)
> Skip
> People's Federal Credit Union
> Cooperative Federal Credit Union
> "note that with credit unions you can often do transactions at a credit union not yours and have them post to yours, they are in cahoots as credit unions" - faust
> we have 2 bitcoins, marc controls the wallet but will transfer it to us as soon as there is an "us"
> rhodey - if theres no penalty for just  go for it
> Update from Timon and Marc on alcohol permit situation
> Timon- Marc was right
> get smashed for $35 with an average of 3 days noticed.
> $35 with 3 days notice
> Thankstaking potluck?
> faust is in, ok faust, take it.
> seeking date/time/deets
> 
> 2. Articles of Incorporation
> not approving board of directors (see above)
> 
> 3. Finances
> all our new cash == standing funds. hands off, act normal.
> no exchequer? no bank balance info?
> current exchequer team does not currently have access to online bank account (can't wait to move to patelco!). check from soex on its way after completion of contract, w-9, signatures, which will be presented to the group at the next meeting.
> 
> 4. conflict resolution
> Timon - constable/conflict steward. The conflict that neither of the two parties wanted to bring t o us. Elliot and Shake. Timon noted them, both of them declined to meet officially. 
> Shake is showing good faith by sharing some perspective.
> the private portion is proceeding.
> Shake speaks - he likes sudo room - he helped dj. at some point he was just working and elliot asked questions about an occupy oakland. he felt like he did explain to elliot, they even went outside. he felt like he wasn't welcome any more. then he found out he had a conflict on the agenda. "keep in mind that i do not want anyone to be uncomfortable because of me". says that because he is a political figure that there will always be oppoonents. now feels uncomfortable because he doesn't understand that why elliot.  gives a message that he wants to be here and help
> Eventually, sudo came around to realize that our actions during the meeting are not the best execution and interpretation of our Conflict Resolution procedure of the Articles of Association, ending the conversation about the details of any specific conflicts. 
> tl;dr shake tried his best but we can't do anything because the other person never showed up
> If anyone has a conflict or wants to resolve things they may have heard or speculate with other members, reach out to the person in question, or find another sudoer to act as a mediator.
> 
> mate made $128
> 
> 5. After- Meeting Teamups 
> bank teamupu
> juice meetup
> 
> 6. Action Items
> marc  -to investigate printer recoup cost
> to message ar
> timon -message art murmur mailing list about alcohol license
> s
> 
> 7. Additional Notes
> 
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