[sudo-discuss] reminder: this email list is Google-able

[Anthony Di Franco]

We should be clear that the part of our collective memory that is made
publicly searchable by Google et. al. is only a slice of the feast on Big
Brother's cannibal menu:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/may/04/telephone-calls-recorded-fbi-boston

BURNETT: Tim, is there any way, obviously, there is a voice mail they can
try to get the phone companies to give that up at this point. It's not a
voice mail. It's just a conversation. There's no way they actually can find
out what happened, right, unless she tells them?

CLEMENTE: "No, *there is a way. We certainly have ways in national security
investigations to find out exactly what was said in that conversation.* It's
not necessarily something that the FBI is going to want to present in
court, but it may help lead the investigation and/or lead to questioning of
her. We certainly can find that out.

BURNETT: "So they can actually get that? People are saying, look, that is
incredible.

CLEMENTE: "No, *welcome to America. All of that stuff is being captured as
we speak whether we know it or like it or not*."

"All of that stuff" - meaning every telephone conversation Americans have
with one another on US soil, with or without a search warrant - "is being
captured as we speak"



On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 7:06 PM, GtwoG PublicOhOne <g2g-public01 at att.net>wrote:

>
> Rabbit & Yo's-
>
> Here's another vote for "yes we should have a list that's not indexed by
> Google."
>
> Given the choice between posting to a list that's a direct
> surveillance-feed and one that isn't, many of us will take our discussion
> to the latter.  (Would you rather cuddle with your friends under a
> surveillance camera, or under a tree?)
>
> But let's not call it "ephemeral," because that word, in this context, is
> a white flag of surrender.  It's surrender to the idea that Google is the
> one and only keeper of cultural memory, and anything else is merely
> transient.  It's surrender to corporate power and the control state.
>
> We should assert the right to our own collective memory, stored on our own
> devices, accessible to our own community.  The place for the kind of
> broadcast that becomes an appetizer on Big Brother's cannibal menu, is when
> the broadcast is something that'll give Big Brother indigestion.
>
> Let Google eat our manifestos, proclamations, and press releases.  But not
> our soul-searches, our occasional bickering, our existential angst, or our
> vulnerable self-revealing philosophizing about sex, religion, and the
> meaning of life.
>
> -G.
>
>
> =====
>
>
>
>
> On 13-05-05-Sun 5:16 PM, Rabbit wrote:
>
>  Just a reminder that the archives of this list are indexed by Google.
>
>
>  (For this reason I'm keeping pretty quiet here.  Would anyone else like
> to have a list which is not indexed?  How about "sudo-ephemeral"?)
>
>
>  -Rabbit
>
>
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