[sudo-discuss] should we hire someone to clean up after events?

[Romy Ilano]

I respect that Matt! It's always best to solve problems without money.

I think it would be wonderfully ironic if people were hacking in python and
not getting paid, which fetches far more on the market of an hourly wage
than cleaning does.

- We are all wonderful, lovable people. But we are better at starting
projects, writing, cooking food, buying beer, and so on than picking up
after ourselves. I just don't think it's terribly realistic to think that a
hackerspace will have people who rock at cleaning.

- Maybe tonight can prove me wrong! =D

In an ideal world, people who clean would get an honorable wage. It is
dirty work, it's rough.


On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 10:08 AM, mattsenate at gmail.com
<mattsenate at gmail.com>wrote:

> Cleaning is life. But even if each of us tried our best to clean up after
> ourselves, there will be aggregated filth, incrementally built, plus the
> cost of natural shuffling, displacement--such is the burden of use and
> optimization! I think we should:
>
> Communicate more clearly the necessary standards for common space.
>
> Provide all event holders with a checklist for set up and break down
>
> Clean up after ourselves and each other collaboratively
>
> Recognize that some additional amount of cleaning is required and
> therefore create good systems for cleaning natural, aggregate mess.*
>
> * my personal politics hope we can do this specific type of work without
> direct financial incentive.
>
> // Matt
>
>
> ----- Reply message -----
> From: "Gregg Horton" <greggahorton at gmail.com>
> To: "Romy Ilano" <romy at snowyla.com>
> Cc: "sudo-discuss" <sudo-discuss at lists.sudoroom.org>
> Subject: [sudo-discuss] should we hire someone to clean up after events?
> Date: Sun, May 5, 2013 9:48 AM
>
>
> I think we should hire a fellow sudoer and use the cash as incentive.
> Whoever wishes to do it that month can.
>
> Or people can learn how to pick up after themselves.
>
>
> On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 8:44 AM, Romy Ilano <romy at snowyla.com> wrote:
>
>> SudoRoom is a hackerspace. Our skillset is not cleaning, especially
>> cleaning the big main room.
>>
>> *- Should we put aside $30-60 every time a group holds an event in our
>> space so that we can pay someone to clean up the common room?*
>> *- Should we pay someone $30-60 once  month to clean the common room for
>> us?*
>>
>> I brought this up because we are realistically not going to get a lot of
>> members to clean the space. we are hackers. it is not our skillset. There
>> is not going to be a magical day when a hackerspace finds that all of its
>> members find cleaning to be a pleasurable act.
>>
>> We are good at starting projects, drinking beer, looking for new spaces,
>> but we are definitely not great at cleaning.
>>
>> Our landlord G is also receptive to the idea of us hiring someone to
>> clean up the common room after big events.
>>
>> I personally suck at cleaning, I'm into doing it, but I would rather
>> spend my time hacking and working on projects. I spent a bit of time
>> cleaning up the space Saturday morning, wiping down the tables int he main
>> room and vacuuming to prepare the space for the today I learned.
>>
>>
>>
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