[sudo-discuss] should we hire someone to clean up after events?

[Tony Barreca]

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On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 10:17 AM, Romy Ilano <romy at snowyla.com> wrote:

> I respect that Matt! It's always best to solve problems without money.
>
> I think it would be wonderfully ironic if people were hacking in python
> and not getting paid, which fetches far more on the market of an hourly
> wage than cleaning does.
>
> - We are all wonderful, lovable people. But we are better at starting
> projects, writing, cooking food, buying beer, and so on than picking up
> after ourselves. I just don't think it's terribly realistic to think that a
> hackerspace will have people who rock at cleaning.
>
> - Maybe tonight can prove me wrong! =D
>
> In an ideal world, people who clean would get an honorable wage. It is
> dirty work, it's rough.
>
>
> On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 10:08 AM, mattsenate at gmail.com <
> mattsenate at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Cleaning is life. But even if each of us tried our best to clean up after
>> ourselves, there will be aggregated filth, incrementally built, plus the
>> cost of natural shuffling, displacement--such is the burden of use and
>> optimization! I think we should:
>>
>> Communicate more clearly the necessary standards for common space.
>>
>> Provide all event holders with a checklist for set up and break down
>>
>> Clean up after ourselves and each other collaboratively
>>
>> Recognize that some additional amount of cleaning is required and
>> therefore create good systems for cleaning natural, aggregate mess.*
>>
>> * my personal politics hope we can do this specific type of work without
>> direct financial incentive.
>>
>> // Matt
>>
>>
>> ----- Reply message -----
>> From: "Gregg Horton" <greggahorton at gmail.com>
>> To: "Romy Ilano" <romy at snowyla.com>
>> Cc: "sudo-discuss" <sudo-discuss at lists.sudoroom.org>
>> Subject: [sudo-discuss] should we hire someone to clean up after events?
>> Date: Sun, May 5, 2013 9:48 AM
>>
>>
>> I think we should hire a fellow sudoer and use the cash as incentive.
>> Whoever wishes to do it that month can.
>>
>> Or people can learn how to pick up after themselves.
>>
>>
>> On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 8:44 AM, Romy Ilano <romy at snowyla.com> wrote:
>>
>>> SudoRoom is a hackerspace. Our skillset is not cleaning, especially
>>> cleaning the big main room.
>>>
>>> *- Should we put aside $30-60 every time a group holds an event in our
>>> space so that we can pay someone to clean up the common room?*
>>> *- Should we pay someone $30-60 once  month to clean the common room
>>> for us?*
>>>
>>> I brought this up because we are realistically not going to get a lot of
>>> members to clean the space. we are hackers. it is not our skillset. There
>>> is not going to be a magical day when a hackerspace finds that all of its
>>> members find cleaning to be a pleasurable act.
>>>
>>> We are good at starting projects, drinking beer, looking for new spaces,
>>> but we are definitely not great at cleaning.
>>>
>>> Our landlord G is also receptive to the idea of us hiring someone to
>>> clean up the common room after big events.
>>>
>>> I personally suck at cleaning, I'm into doing it, but I would rather
>>> spend my time hacking and working on projects. I spent a bit of time
>>> cleaning up the space Saturday morning, wiping down the tables int he main
>>> room and vacuuming to prepare the space for the today I learned.
>>>
>>>
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