[sudo-discuss] [BAPS-Organizing] Re: Proposal to Galvanize
Michael Nicoloff
michael.nicoloff at gmail.com
Thu Dec 19 10:02:07 PST 2013
So, in the spirit of full disclosure, I'm on record as being very skeptical
about the feasibility of the Omni, so speaking from that perspective, I
think that working on some combination of renters for the third office is a
really excellent idea. It takes steps toward the creation of a broader
radical common and, as Matt points out, it really does lay the groundwork
for the kind of financial and organizing coordination that the Omni or any
other larger collective project would need. I don't want to be a skeptical
downer over here, because I really do hope that the Omni comes to fruition,
but I nonetheless think it's important to focus on creating a resilient
organizational and financial infrastructure that, even if the Omni falls
through, will still allow us to move forward on these kinds of projects.
Drawing other groups into the space we have in the here and now seems like
a good, concrete step towards that sort of work.
MN
On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 5:31 AM, Matthew Senate <mattsenate at gmail.com>wrote:
> Hey all,
>
> Excited to discuss tonight, hope you can make it.
>
> Appreciate the feedback from everyone, wanted to share a few thoughts.
>
>
> 1. On The Dangers of 2141 Broadway - as far as I see it, we're here,
> and it's going to take quite a bit of energy to confirm an alternative with
> the right critical mass of folks. To rent out an extra room is equivalent
> to saying "We haven't signed a lease on an alternative for this January,
> let's put our stuff and ourselves some place for now, especially if we
> don't have any space at all". With a month-to-month contract, I shared my
> reasons in the first email about why I think it's valuable to do this. In
> fact, we're lucky to have the option at this time.
> 2. On Fund-Raising - I do think there will be some way to
> intelligently combine the budgets of a small number of groups to share the
> third office. Knowing just a few interested parties should get the ball
> rolling. If we're building up to make serious financial commitments
> together, I see this as pretty close to the minimum in terms of financial
> commitments, a first step. By all of this I also mean that I don't think
> the cost will be prohibitive to raising more funds, given the
> back-of-the-envelope estimations for alternative spaces so far.
> 3. On The Office - I believe splitting the room about ~18 ways would
> be possible. On the other hand, I think there is likely a better set of
> chunks than even division. To give more detail, I think we could probably
> do something more like:
> 1. Some significant portion of the space is rented by one or two
> groups, up to say a third or a half. ($300 - $400 / mo)
> 2. Some shared desk space is available for folks that need an
> office space (3 x $50 / mo)
> 3. Some storage space is available for folks that need storage
> only, or storage along with room usage. (3 x $50 / mo)
> 4. A few more desks are rented and managed as a co-working
> component, say as "sudo work" or whatever, that I am interested in
> coordinating. (6 x $50 / mo)
>
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 7:16 PM, Max B <maxb.personal at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Is 18 separate groups feasible? Personally, I might be interested in
>> paying $50 for a co-working(ish) space for myself and for sudomesh. I
>> guess I'd be interested in that sort of arrangement in any new Omni-like
>> situation as well.
>>
>> Max B
>>
>>
>> On 12/17/2013 03:12 PM, Matthew Senate wrote:
>> > Hey all,
>> >
>> > I have a proposal I'd like some feedback on and to discuss at the next
>> > meeting at the public school this Thursday (7pm right?)
>> >
>> > *Proposal: *
>>
>> > Out of the attendees of these meetings (including folks on the list
>> below),
>> > to find some number of interested collectives, individuals,
>> organizations,
>> > small businesses, etc to rent the $900-$950 / mo. office adjacent to the
>> > Bay Area Public School (BAPS), sharing the common space with BAPS and
>> the
>> > Sudo Room at 2141 Broadway in Oakland. For instance, at ~18 equal
>> parties,
>> > this room can be rented for $50 / mo. I am personally interested in
>> > coordinating several folks to use part of the space as "sudo coworking"
>> > with a few small desks for individual work. The intention of this
>> rental is
>> > multiple-fold:
>> >
>> > * To no longer delay in solidifying collaboration between various
>> > groups--i.e. for other folks to join BAPS and the Sudo Room by sharing
>> > space now.
>> > * To commit to investing (minimally) financially in a venture that
>> requires
>> > communication, collaboration, and sharing.
>> > * To engage in a learning experience about our ability to co-operate and
>> > grow.
>> > * To provide an opportunity to groups that currently do not have a
>> space to
>> > galvanize their community.
>> > * To be able to fruitfully engage in a comparison between various group
>> > rental options including The Omni, 8th and Alice, and even 2141
>> Broadway.
>> >
>> > https://sudoroom.org/wiki/The_Omni
>> > https://sudoroom.org/wiki/8th_and_Alice
>> > https://sudoroom.org/wiki/2141_Broadway
>> > https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Spaces
>> >
>> > *List (in no particular order):*
>> >
>> > - * Timeless infinite
>> > light<
>> http://space.sudoscience.org/index.php/Possible_Groups#Timeless_infinite_light
>> >
>> > - * sudo mesh<
>> http://space.sudoscience.org/index.php/Possible_Groups#sudo_mesh>
>> > - * Prelinger
>> > Library<
>> http://space.sudoscience.org/index.php/Possible_Groups#Prelinger_Library>
>> > - * Local Flavor<
>> http://space.sudoscience.org/index.php/Possible_Groups#Local_Flavor>
>> > - * Planting
>> > Justice<
>> http://space.sudoscience.org/index.php/Possible_Groups#Planting_Justice>
>> > - * Spokeland<
>> http://space.sudoscience.org/index.php/Possible_Groups#Spokeland>
>> > - * Fix-It Clinic<
>> http://space.sudoscience.org/index.php/Possible_Groups#Fix-It_Clinic>
>> > - * CorpWatch<
>> http://space.sudoscience.org/index.php/Possible_Groups#CorpWatch>
>> > - * Sudo Co-Working<
>> http://space.sudoscience.org/index.php/Possible_Groups#Sudo_Co-Working>
>> >
>> >
>> >
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>> >
>>
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