[sudo-discuss] [BAPS-Organizing] Re: Proposal to Galvanize

Marina Kukso marina.kukso at gmail.com
Thu Dec 19 13:23:16 PST 2013 

hi everyone,

quick question - are folks still interested at all in the 8th st. location?
is that still viable? just taking a vibes check on interest in that spot.

https://sudoroom.org/wiki/8th_and_Alice


On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 10:02 AM, Michael Nicoloff <
michael.nicoloff at gmail.com> wrote:

> So, in the spirit of full disclosure, I'm on record as being very
> skeptical about the feasibility of the Omni, so speaking from that
> perspective, I think that working on some combination of renters for the
> third office is a really excellent idea. It takes steps toward the creation
> of a broader radical common and, as Matt points out, it really does lay the
> groundwork for the kind of financial and organizing coordination that the
> Omni or any other larger collective project would need. I don't want to be
> a skeptical downer over here, because I really do hope that the Omni comes
> to fruition, but I nonetheless think it's important to focus on creating a
> resilient organizational and financial infrastructure that, even if the
> Omni falls through, will still allow us to move forward on these kinds of
> projects. Drawing other groups into the space we have in the here and now
> seems like a good, concrete step towards that sort of work.
>
> MN
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 5:31 AM, Matthew Senate <mattsenate at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Hey all,
>>
>> Excited to discuss tonight, hope you can make it.
>>
>> Appreciate the feedback from everyone, wanted to share a few thoughts.
>>
>>
>>    1. On The Dangers of 2141 Broadway - as far as I see it, we're here,
>>    and it's going to take quite a bit of energy to confirm an alternative with
>>    the right critical mass of folks. To rent out an extra room is equivalent
>>    to saying "We haven't signed a lease on an alternative for this January,
>>    let's put our stuff and ourselves some place for now, especially if we
>>    don't have any space at all". With a month-to-month contract, I shared my
>>    reasons in the first email about why I think it's valuable to do this. In
>>    fact, we're lucky to have the option at this time.
>>    2. On Fund-Raising - I do think there will be some way to
>>    intelligently combine the budgets of a small number of groups to share the
>>    third office. Knowing just a few interested parties should get the ball
>>    rolling. If we're building up to make serious financial commitments
>>    together, I see this as pretty close to the minimum in terms of financial
>>    commitments, a first step. By all of this I also mean that I don't think
>>    the cost will be prohibitive to raising more funds, given the
>>    back-of-the-envelope estimations for alternative spaces so far.
>>    3. On The Office - I believe splitting the room about ~18 ways would
>>    be possible. On the other hand, I think there is likely a better set of
>>    chunks than even division. To give more detail, I think we could probably
>>    do something more like:
>>       1. Some significant portion of the space is rented by one or two
>>       groups, up to say a third or a half. ($300 - $400 / mo)
>>       2. Some shared desk space is available for folks that need an
>>       office space (3 x $50 / mo)
>>       3. Some storage space is available for folks that need storage
>>       only, or storage along with room usage. (3 x $50 / mo)
>>       4. A few more desks are rented and managed as a co-working
>>       component, say as "sudo work" or whatever, that I am interested in
>>       coordinating. (6 x $50 / mo)
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 7:16 PM, Max B <maxb.personal at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Is 18 separate groups feasible? Personally, I might be interested in
>>> paying $50 for a co-working(ish) space for myself and for sudomesh. I
>>> guess I'd be interested in that sort of arrangement in any new Omni-like
>>> situation as well.
>>>
>>> Max B
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12/17/2013 03:12 PM, Matthew Senate wrote:
>>> > Hey all,
>>> >
>>> > I have a proposal I'd like some feedback on and to discuss at the next
>>> > meeting at the public school this Thursday (7pm right?)
>>> >
>>> > *Proposal: *
>>>
>>> > Out of the attendees of these meetings (including folks on the list
>>> below),
>>> > to find some number of interested collectives, individuals,
>>> organizations,
>>> > small businesses, etc to rent the $900-$950 / mo. office adjacent to
>>> the
>>> > Bay Area Public School (BAPS), sharing the common space with BAPS and
>>> the
>>> > Sudo Room at 2141 Broadway in Oakland. For instance, at ~18 equal
>>> parties,
>>> > this room can be rented for $50 / mo. I am personally interested in
>>> > coordinating several folks to use part of the space as "sudo coworking"
>>> > with a few small desks for individual work. The intention of this
>>> rental is
>>> > multiple-fold:
>>> >
>>> > * To no longer delay in solidifying collaboration between various
>>> > groups--i.e. for other folks to join BAPS and the Sudo Room by sharing
>>> > space now.
>>> > * To commit to investing (minimally) financially in a venture that
>>> requires
>>> > communication, collaboration, and sharing.
>>> > * To engage in a learning experience about our ability to co-operate
>>> and
>>> > grow.
>>> > * To provide an opportunity to groups that currently do not have a
>>> space to
>>> > galvanize their community.
>>> > * To be able to fruitfully engage in a comparison between various group
>>> > rental options including The Omni, 8th and Alice, and even 2141
>>> Broadway.
>>> >
>>> > https://sudoroom.org/wiki/The_Omni
>>> > https://sudoroom.org/wiki/8th_and_Alice
>>> > https://sudoroom.org/wiki/2141_Broadway
>>> > https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Spaces
>>> >
>>> > *List (in no particular order):*
>>> >
>>> >    - * Timeless infinite
>>> > light<
>>> http://space.sudoscience.org/index.php/Possible_Groups#Timeless_infinite_light
>>> >
>>> >    - * sudo mesh<
>>> http://space.sudoscience.org/index.php/Possible_Groups#sudo_mesh>
>>> >    - * Prelinger
>>> > Library<
>>> http://space.sudoscience.org/index.php/Possible_Groups#Prelinger_Library
>>> >
>>> >    - * Local Flavor<
>>> http://space.sudoscience.org/index.php/Possible_Groups#Local_Flavor>
>>> >    - * Planting
>>> > Justice<
>>> http://space.sudoscience.org/index.php/Possible_Groups#Planting_Justice>
>>> >    - * Spokeland<
>>> http://space.sudoscience.org/index.php/Possible_Groups#Spokeland>
>>> >    - * Fix-It Clinic<
>>> http://space.sudoscience.org/index.php/Possible_Groups#Fix-It_Clinic>
>>> >    - * CorpWatch<
>>> http://space.sudoscience.org/index.php/Possible_Groups#CorpWatch>
>>> >    - * Sudo Co-Working<
>>> http://space.sudoscience.org/index.php/Possible_Groups#Sudo_Co-Working>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
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>>>
>>
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