[sudo-discuss] Instant 24/7 access? Do we allow for this? And how?

[Julio Rios]

I was listening to the Noisebridge tour sent by Vicky and it seems like
their membership process <http://youtu.be/2wGMjRJpLCA?t=10m02s> is a
little more
formalized <http://youtu.be/2wGMjRJpLCA?t=8m58s>.  I would support doing
something similar, though perhaps not exactly the same.... as Sonja
suggested.
I would think full members (per some criteria) would get access 24/7, and
everyone else can access the space if a member is already there (as is
usually the case now, though the definition of "member" is currently
somewhat vague).



On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 1:52 PM, rusty lindgren <rustylindgren at gmail.com>wrote:

> Same, Welcome Sonja!
>
> Thanks for your thoughts.  It's really important to the group that all
> humans feel like there is a good level of safety in the space.
>
> :D
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 12:25 PM, Marina Kukso <marina.kukso at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> welcome sonja!
>>
>>
>> +a million to jordan's email.
>>
>> - marina
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 12:24 PM, Sonja Trauss <sonja.trauss at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Hi I'm totally new here and I don't know any of you. I live in west
>>> Oakland but I belong to Noisebridge! Absurd.
>>> I agree with an earlier poster that it is valuable to make members/
>>> people work for what they get. Not giving ppl 24 h access is as justifiable
>>> for that reason as it is for the safety reasons.
>>> I suggest you adopt the age-old policy of having to get a current member
>>> to recommend you in order to be a full member (24-h access). Someone like
>>> me could become a partial member immediately, with limited access, and then
>>> I would have to meet some people and get one (or two, if that's the rule)
>>> to sign off on me being a full member. It sounds exclusive, but it's
>>> actually already how communities work.
>>> On Apr 4, 2013 11:57 AM, "rusty lindgren" <rustylindgren at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hey Everyone,
>>>>
>>>> Just thought I would point this out, since it came up earlier in the
>>>> dues thread.  But, Marc's point(a very good marketing point about 24/7
>>>> access), has as a big security exception, we didn't really talk about,
>>>> probably mostly because of time.
>>>>
>>>> Basically, it's easy for us to think "hey, we should let this person
>>>> have access, because they seem cool, and we want to remain open," but even
>>>> I get sketched out at night sometimes, and there are real safety issues at
>>>> work here, and we should discuss them in relation to cost/benefits for the
>>>> space.  It's also entirely possible that we trust someone, and they just do
>>>> something bad anyway.  We don't really spend a lot of time thinking about
>>>> this, but this is something we haven't had to really deal with yet, because
>>>> we've had really shitty access up until now.
>>>>
>>>> I don't know if my survey asked this question properly, but I was
>>>> trying to see if 24/7 access was worth more to people as a value, but I
>>>> think for some people it could be a safety draw-back, and at least in 1
>>>> case this is true.  I also am not sure it's really something we should be
>>>> promoting, if we do decide on it being okay for members to do.
>>>>
>>>> If anyone wants to post about how they feel about this(I think it
>>>> really is about feelings in this case, because it's about promoting
>>>> membership and establishing wants/needs), then please feel free to reply
>>>> here.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Rusty
>>>> **
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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> Cheers,
>
> Rusty Lindgren
> **
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