[sudo-discuss] Instant 24/7 access? Do we allow for this? And how?

[rusty lindgren]

Same, Welcome Sonja!

Thanks for your thoughts.  It's really important to the group that all
humans feel like there is a good level of safety in the space.

:D

On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 12:25 PM, Marina Kukso <marina.kukso at gmail.com>wrote:

> welcome sonja!
>
>
> +a million to jordan's email.
>
> - marina
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 12:24 PM, Sonja Trauss <sonja.trauss at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Hi I'm totally new here and I don't know any of you. I live in west
>> Oakland but I belong to Noisebridge! Absurd.
>> I agree with an earlier poster that it is valuable to make members/
>> people work for what they get. Not giving ppl 24 h access is as justifiable
>> for that reason as it is for the safety reasons.
>> I suggest you adopt the age-old policy of having to get a current member
>> to recommend you in order to be a full member (24-h access). Someone like
>> me could become a partial member immediately, with limited access, and then
>> I would have to meet some people and get one (or two, if that's the rule)
>> to sign off on me being a full member. It sounds exclusive, but it's
>> actually already how communities work.
>> On Apr 4, 2013 11:57 AM, "rusty lindgren" <rustylindgren at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey Everyone,
>>>
>>> Just thought I would point this out, since it came up earlier in the
>>> dues thread.  But, Marc's point(a very good marketing point about 24/7
>>> access), has as a big security exception, we didn't really talk about,
>>> probably mostly because of time.
>>>
>>> Basically, it's easy for us to think "hey, we should let this person
>>> have access, because they seem cool, and we want to remain open," but even
>>> I get sketched out at night sometimes, and there are real safety issues at
>>> work here, and we should discuss them in relation to cost/benefits for the
>>> space.  It's also entirely possible that we trust someone, and they just do
>>> something bad anyway.  We don't really spend a lot of time thinking about
>>> this, but this is something we haven't had to really deal with yet, because
>>> we've had really shitty access up until now.
>>>
>>> I don't know if my survey asked this question properly, but I was trying
>>> to see if 24/7 access was worth more to people as a value, but I think for
>>> some people it could be a safety draw-back, and at least in 1 case this is
>>> true.  I also am not sure it's really something we should be promoting, if
>>> we do decide on it being okay for members to do.
>>>
>>> If anyone wants to post about how they feel about this(I think it really
>>> is about feelings in this case, because it's about promoting membership and
>>> establishing wants/needs), then please feel free to reply here.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Rusty
>>> **
>>>
>>>
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-- 
Cheers,

Rusty Lindgren
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