[sudo-discuss] Instant 24/7 access? Do we allow for this? And how?

Marina Kukso marina.kukso at gmail.com
Thu Apr 4 12:25:50 PDT 2013


welcome sonja!


+a million to jordan's email.

- marina


On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 12:24 PM, Sonja Trauss <sonja.trauss at gmail.com>wrote:

> Hi I'm totally new here and I don't know any of you. I live in west
> Oakland but I belong to Noisebridge! Absurd.
> I agree with an earlier poster that it is valuable to make members/ people
> work for what they get. Not giving ppl 24 h access is as justifiable for
> that reason as it is for the safety reasons.
> I suggest you adopt the age-old policy of having to get a current member
> to recommend you in order to be a full member (24-h access). Someone like
> me could become a partial member immediately, with limited access, and then
> I would have to meet some people and get one (or two, if that's the rule)
> to sign off on me being a full member. It sounds exclusive, but it's
> actually already how communities work.
> On Apr 4, 2013 11:57 AM, "rusty lindgren" <rustylindgren at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hey Everyone,
>>
>> Just thought I would point this out, since it came up earlier in the dues
>> thread.  But, Marc's point(a very good marketing point about 24/7 access),
>> has as a big security exception, we didn't really talk about, probably
>> mostly because of time.
>>
>> Basically, it's easy for us to think "hey, we should let this person have
>> access, because they seem cool, and we want to remain open," but even I get
>> sketched out at night sometimes, and there are real safety issues at work
>> here, and we should discuss them in relation to cost/benefits for the
>> space.  It's also entirely possible that we trust someone, and they just do
>> something bad anyway.  We don't really spend a lot of time thinking about
>> this, but this is something we haven't had to really deal with yet, because
>> we've had really shitty access up until now.
>>
>> I don't know if my survey asked this question properly, but I was trying
>> to see if 24/7 access was worth more to people as a value, but I think for
>> some people it could be a safety draw-back, and at least in 1 case this is
>> true.  I also am not sure it's really something we should be promoting, if
>> we do decide on it being okay for members to do.
>>
>> If anyone wants to post about how they feel about this(I think it really
>> is about feelings in this case, because it's about promoting membership and
>> establishing wants/needs), then please feel free to reply here.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Rusty
>> **
>>
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