[sudo-discuss] [omni-discuss] someone is stealing things at sudoroom / the omni

Patrik D'haeseleer patrikd at gmail.com
Thu Mar 26 16:23:49 PDT 2015


By the way, BioCurious has recently had a significant amount of $ stolen
out of their cash box, and they've had some heated discussions around video
surveillance as well.

If we can come up with a good closed encrypted system that requires
multiple keys to decrypt, they might be interested in adopting something
along those lines too.

Patrik


On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 4:15 PM, Marc Juul <juul at labitat.dk> wrote:

>
>
> On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 3:31 PM, <hol at gaskill.com> wrote:
>
>>  unless la commune maintains primary access to their space by passing
>> through sudo room I'd say the 2 positions are consistent
>>
>
>
> I'm not sure I believe closing sudo/ccl off is going to change anything. I
> foresee that people will come in at some point during the day, open the
> doors to sudo room for the public and they will remain open until the
> building is closed up in the evening. If we were to require people to use
> access cards every time they move between sudo and the rest of omni then
> this would _really_ change the feel of openness that the Omni currently
> has. It would mean that not being a member of any given space is a much
> bigger issue, since you will then need to wait for someone to open the door
> for you even if you're just going to the kitchen and back. I'm sure people
> will propose something to the effect of "open doors between 10 am and 6 pm"
> but that again renders the whole system ineffective since it is likely that
> the thefts are happening in that time window. Then we can consider giving
> out "guest passes" to people that only work for internal access between
> sudo and kitchen/ballroom/basement within certain hours.
>
> If we are closing parts of the Omni off to anyone (btw already the TIL
> office is closed off so this is not completely novel) then there are few
> remaining reasons I can think of to not allow La Commune to close itself.
> One is for access to sudo room/CCL from the outside, which we can provide
> through the back door anyway. The other is for other collectives to access
> the upstairs area after hours (most importantly the kitchen). This would
> involve some non-trivial amount of construction and probably permits,
> though the area around the staircase to the upstairs closest to sudo is
> infested with mold anyway so tearing it down to some degree might have to
> happen anyway.
>
> I do see this as a major shift in how we think about and use the Omni and
> we should consider alternatives before we go this route. I think a closed
> and encrypted video surveillance system that can only be accessed through
> consent is a possible viable alternative that may be more effective than
> locked doors, and definitely would be easier to implement in the short term.
>
>
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> marc/juul
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