[sudo-discuss] [omni-discuss] Proposal: No Sidewalk Boozin'

Patrik D'haeseleer patrikd at gmail.com
Mon Mar 23 12:57:06 PDT 2015


Totally agree.

A bit redundant, but we may also want to add that people should not be
leaving empty beer bottles, cans or other alcohol containers behind outside
the Omni. Because that has happened several times before, and it makes the
outside drinking *so* much more visible to the entire neighborhood.

Patrik

On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 12:49 PM, David Keenan <dkeenan44 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Posted to the Proposals <https://omnicommons.org/wiki/Proposals> page for
> y'alls consideration:
>
> No Sidewalk Boozin
> <https://omnicommons.org/wiki/No_Sidewalk_Boozin#mw-navigation>
> <https://omnicommons.org/wiki/No_Sidewalk_Boozin#p-search>
> Proposal: No Drinking of Alcohol on Sidewalks outside Omni[edit
> <https://omnicommons.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=No_Sidewalk_Boozin&action=edit&section=1>
> ]
>
>    - Proposal date: 2015-03-23
>    - Put forward by: DK
>
>
>    - Proposal that no alcohol is to be consumed on the sidewalks
>    immediately outside the Omni by Omniers.
>    - Rationale:
>       - Recent evidence that, and communication from, Omni neighbors who
>       like the Omni generally but at least some neighbors have shown that they
>       will call the cops on 'drunk people' hanging out outside Omni. So the
>       neighborhood is beginning to push back on this and we should respect that.
>       - Drinking outside has also attracted local drunks who are not
>       Omninoms with attendant safe space issues
>       - This is a clear legal and liability issue for Omni. Cameras on
>       buildings across the street record this activity 24x7 and this could be
>       used to buttress any argument against Omni as a solid, safe place for
>       community gatherings.
>       - We recognize that this practice began after a long hard day of
>       working on the space - laying up drywall etc - that folks wanted to simply
>       sit outside, take a break and perhaps have a beer. However it shouldn't be
>       the case that it is normal for having beers outside omni on a daily basis
>       as inevitably trouble will result.
>       - This is not a proposal for omni to be a 'dry' space which would
>       be pretty much impossible considering the need of the frequent fundraisers,
>       'socials', ballroom rentals, etc. It is to say though that no alcoholic
>       beverages are to be consumed in the immediate area outside the premises of
>       Omni.
>
>
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