[sudo-discuss] [drama] no secrets here

Wed Jan 28 02:08:38 PST 2015

If we ban someone from physically visiting the space because their presence
is bad for the community, I see no reason why we can't ban them from the
mailing lists as well. Just saying...

Patrik

On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 12:20 AM, Candace Lazarou <candacelazarou at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Yes, please stop
>
> On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 6:51 PM, Ryan <yandoryn at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I'm adding the drama tag to this thread for filters.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 6:41 PM, "Løng$hanks" <longshanks at spaz.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Huh.
>>> Jake, you are a prick.
>>>
>>> On Mon, January 26, 2015 10:45 pm, Jake wrote:
>>> > i'm really ashamed that this guy has a spaz.org email address.
>>> >
>>> > you can thank Stan for that.
>>> >
>>> > -jake
>>> >
>>> > On Mon, 26 Jan 2015, "Løng$hanks" wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> Damn, I always miss the good stuff.
>>> >>
>>> >> Dear Noisebridge,
>>> >>
>>> >> Recently I got a chance to check out your 86 page & I want to thank
>>> you for including me at
>>> >> https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/86. I'm sorry I've been too busy
>>> since you banned me to
>>> >> check it out til now. Life as a sexy homeless man is hard! If I can
>>> lodge one complaint,
>>> >> it's
>>> >> only that I'm so low on the list (the very last!) that I'm afraid
>>> some people won't read
>>> >> down
>>> >> that far. Any chance of bumping me up a bit? wink emoticon
>>> >>
>>> >> If you have any questions about the elevator incident, my current
>>> mental health, the size &
>>> >> quality of my recent bowel movements, etc, all of this information is
>>> available at
>>> >> http://resistor.spaz.org. I also left print copies on the lit table
>>> in the Omni entryway
>>> >> last
>>> >> night!
>>> >>
>>> >> +11+
>>> >>
>>> >> Thanks so much for the pic I've been waiting for f***ing ever on that!
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> On Mon, January 26, 2015 5:25 pm, null null null wrote:
>>> >>> Thanks everyone for your input. If anyone will be around the Omni
>>> tonight,
>>> >>> I think it might be helpful to brainstorm strategies in person. Say
>>> 5:00 to
>>> >>> 6:30? I'll rely anything that comes up back to the list.
>>> >>> On Jan 24, 2015 1:51 AM, "Jake" <jake at spaz.org> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>>> thanks Null (whoever that is) for bringing this up and suggesting
>>> good
>>> >>>> pointers on how we should deal with such situations.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> I agree with Patrik that it's important for someone to take a
>>> picture,
>>> >>>> when someone makes enough of a problem that it takes multiple
>>> people to
>>> >>>> deal with them, a photograph is essential for two reasons:
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> 1. it allows us to share with each other the knowledge about a
>>> problem
>>> >>>> person in case they come back (expecting no one will remember them)
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> 2. it lets them know that we will not forget who they are, and that
>>> they
>>> >>>> should forget about us and never come back.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> I must stress that #2 is the most important aspect of this, because
>>> >>>> ultimately our goal should be for problem people to go away and
>>> never come
>>> >>>> back.  Ideally they will tell their friends "don't bother, those
>>> people are
>>> >>>> not the victims we believed them to be" or a paraphrase of that.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> in particular, read the story of "Thief" from the noisebridge 86
>>> wiki:
>>> >>>> https://noisebridge.net/wiki/86
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> "This guy went into the back classroom and took Rayc's wallet out
>>> of his
>>> >>>>  backpack. Rayc saw him with the wallet in his hand and the guy
>>> tried to
>>> >>>>  say it was his. He then started running towards the door and was
>>> tackled
>>> >>>>  by Jake. We made him show us that nothing was in his pockets, and
>>> he kept
>>> >>>>  avoiding the big pocket in the front of his jacket. This pocket
>>> turned
>>> >>>>  out to have Sasha's smart phone. During the search his crack pipe
>>> fell
>>> >>>>  onto the floor and broke into many pieces. We let him go and told
>>> him
>>> >>>>  not to come back."
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> It took several people holding onto him to keep him from exiting
>>> down the
>>> >>>> stairwell with people's property.  He really wanted to leave but he
>>> did not
>>> >>>> hit or strike anyone at any time, which is why we let him go after
>>> >>>> searching him and getting the stolen items back.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> When there is no photograph, it's basically impossible to prevent a
>>> person
>>> >>>> from coming back whenever they want unless there is a person there
>>> who will
>>> >>>> recognize them.  We can't be playing cat and mouse with people who
>>> want to
>>> >>>> take advantage of us.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> -jake
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