[sudo-discuss] [drama] no secrets here

Candace Lazarou candacelazarou at gmail.com
Wed Jan 28 00:20:40 PST 2015


Yes, please stop

On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 6:51 PM, Ryan <yandoryn at gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm adding the drama tag to this thread for filters.
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 6:41 PM, "Løng$hanks" <longshanks at spaz.org> wrote:
>
>> Huh.
>> Jake, you are a prick.
>>
>> On Mon, January 26, 2015 10:45 pm, Jake wrote:
>> > i'm really ashamed that this guy has a spaz.org email address.
>> >
>> > you can thank Stan for that.
>> >
>> > -jake
>> >
>> > On Mon, 26 Jan 2015, "Løng$hanks" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Damn, I always miss the good stuff.
>> >>
>> >> Dear Noisebridge,
>> >>
>> >> Recently I got a chance to check out your 86 page & I want to thank
>> you for including me at
>> >> https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/86. I'm sorry I've been too busy
>> since you banned me to
>> >> check it out til now. Life as a sexy homeless man is hard! If I can
>> lodge one complaint,
>> >> it's
>> >> only that I'm so low on the list (the very last!) that I'm afraid some
>> people won't read
>> >> down
>> >> that far. Any chance of bumping me up a bit? wink emoticon
>> >>
>> >> If you have any questions about the elevator incident, my current
>> mental health, the size &
>> >> quality of my recent bowel movements, etc, all of this information is
>> available at
>> >> http://resistor.spaz.org. I also left print copies on the lit table
>> in the Omni entryway
>> >> last
>> >> night!
>> >>
>> >> +11+
>> >>
>> >> Thanks so much for the pic I've been waiting for f***ing ever on that!
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, January 26, 2015 5:25 pm, null null null wrote:
>> >>> Thanks everyone for your input. If anyone will be around the Omni
>> tonight,
>> >>> I think it might be helpful to brainstorm strategies in person. Say
>> 5:00 to
>> >>> 6:30? I'll rely anything that comes up back to the list.
>> >>> On Jan 24, 2015 1:51 AM, "Jake" <jake at spaz.org> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> thanks Null (whoever that is) for bringing this up and suggesting
>> good
>> >>>> pointers on how we should deal with such situations.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I agree with Patrik that it's important for someone to take a
>> picture,
>> >>>> when someone makes enough of a problem that it takes multiple people
>> to
>> >>>> deal with them, a photograph is essential for two reasons:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> 1. it allows us to share with each other the knowledge about a
>> problem
>> >>>> person in case they come back (expecting no one will remember them)
>> >>>>
>> >>>> 2. it lets them know that we will not forget who they are, and that
>> they
>> >>>> should forget about us and never come back.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I must stress that #2 is the most important aspect of this, because
>> >>>> ultimately our goal should be for problem people to go away and
>> never come
>> >>>> back.  Ideally they will tell their friends "don't bother, those
>> people are
>> >>>> not the victims we believed them to be" or a paraphrase of that.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> in particular, read the story of "Thief" from the noisebridge 86
>> wiki:
>> >>>> https://noisebridge.net/wiki/86
>> >>>>
>> >>>> "This guy went into the back classroom and took Rayc's wallet out of
>> his
>> >>>>  backpack. Rayc saw him with the wallet in his hand and the guy
>> tried to
>> >>>>  say it was his. He then started running towards the door and was
>> tackled
>> >>>>  by Jake. We made him show us that nothing was in his pockets, and
>> he kept
>> >>>>  avoiding the big pocket in the front of his jacket. This pocket
>> turned
>> >>>>  out to have Sasha's smart phone. During the search his crack pipe
>> fell
>> >>>>  onto the floor and broke into many pieces. We let him go and told
>> him
>> >>>>  not to come back."
>> >>>>
>> >>>> It took several people holding onto him to keep him from exiting
>> down the
>> >>>> stairwell with people's property.  He really wanted to leave but he
>> did not
>> >>>> hit or strike anyone at any time, which is why we let him go after
>> >>>> searching him and getting the stolen items back.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> When there is no photograph, it's basically impossible to prevent a
>> person
>> >>>> from coming back whenever they want unless there is a person there
>> who will
>> >>>> recognize them.  We can't be playing cat and mouse with people who
>> want to
>> >>>> take advantage of us.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> -jake
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