[sudo-discuss] Stealing Shit Policy

Ryan yandoryn at gmail.com
Fri Jan 23 21:45:46 PST 2015


On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 3:05 PM, Karissa McKelvey <
karissa.mckelvey at gmail.com> wrote:

> There has to be a way to prevent people from re entering, or effectively
> banning people from the space if serious rules (violence, theft, etc)  are
> violated
>

There is.

https://omnicommons.org/wiki/Bans
https://omnicommons.org/wiki/Safer_Space_Policy



> On Jan 23, 2015 1:32 PM, "Patrik D'haeseleer" <patrikd at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I love "Confrontation Response Policy".
>>
>> Should also include a reminder to take a picture or collect contact info
>> of the perpetrators if possible, and suggestions for how to do so in a way
>> that does not escalate an already potentially dangerous situation.
>>
>> Patrik
>> On Jan 23, 2015 11:30 AM, "null null null" <null at revolution.cheap> wrote:
>>
>>> We've got a lot of big items scheduled for next week's meeting, and it'd
>>> be helpful to start talking about them now so that the meeting itself can
>>> be as fruitful as possible without stretching on into midnight. One of the
>>> bigger items is the "Stealing Shit Policy," which would outline an
>>> appropriate response to theft in the space. It might be worth extending
>>> this into something more like the "Confrontation Response Policy," so that
>>> it could address other situations in which someone is threatening the space
>>> or its membership, whether they're drunkenly destroying items or verbally
>>> accosting people.
>>>
>>> I spoke with several people about how we could deal with these
>>> situations without calling the police or violating our safe space
>>> agreements <https://omnicommons.org/wiki/Safe_space>. Most of us were
>>> at a loss, but Ryan had some good initial suggestions. I've outlined them
>>> below as best I recall:
>>>
>>>    - If someone is trying to leave the space with a stolen item, call
>>>    all hands on deck and block the entrances until they've relinquished it.
>>>    - If someone is harassing people or damaging the space, ask them to
>>>    leave. If they refuse to leave, then call all hands on deck and form a
>>>    human net around them. Without touching them, guide them out the door.
>>>    - Only if someone is physically violent do we respond with physical
>>>    force.
>>>
>>> These responses would be absolute last resorts, and hopefully we would
>>> never need to employ them. Still, even if we tighten down our entrance
>>> policies, we should be ready to respond to people who are abusing the space
>>> and its membership. This way, we'll be prepared to respond in a way that's
>>> aligned with our values.
>>>
>>> Are there other ideas about how to deal with these types of situations?
>>> I've reached out to some radical spaces back in Austin to see how they
>>> would respond. If there are other spaces in town that might have some
>>> perspective or techniques, it'd be great to hear from them too.
>>>
>>> -null
>>>
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