[sudo-discuss] Stealing Shit Policy

Karissa McKelvey karissa.mckelvey at gmail.com
Fri Jan 23 15:05:00 PST 2015


There has to be a way to prevent people from re entering, or effectively
banning people from the space if serious rules (violence, theft, etc)  are
violated
On Jan 23, 2015 1:32 PM, "Patrik D'haeseleer" <patrikd at gmail.com> wrote:

> I love "Confrontation Response Policy".
>
> Should also include a reminder to take a picture or collect contact info
> of the perpetrators if possible, and suggestions for how to do so in a way
> that does not escalate an already potentially dangerous situation.
>
> Patrik
> On Jan 23, 2015 11:30 AM, "null null null" <null at revolution.cheap> wrote:
>
>> We've got a lot of big items scheduled for next week's meeting, and it'd
>> be helpful to start talking about them now so that the meeting itself can
>> be as fruitful as possible without stretching on into midnight. One of the
>> bigger items is the "Stealing Shit Policy," which would outline an
>> appropriate response to theft in the space. It might be worth extending
>> this into something more like the "Confrontation Response Policy," so that
>> it could address other situations in which someone is threatening the space
>> or its membership, whether they're drunkenly destroying items or verbally
>> accosting people.
>>
>> I spoke with several people about how we could deal with these situations
>> without calling the police or violating our safe space agreements
>> <https://omnicommons.org/wiki/Safe_space>. Most of us were at a loss,
>> but Ryan had some good initial suggestions. I've outlined them below as
>> best I recall:
>>
>>    - If someone is trying to leave the space with a stolen item, call
>>    all hands on deck and block the entrances until they've relinquished it.
>>    - If someone is harassing people or damaging the space, ask them to
>>    leave. If they refuse to leave, then call all hands on deck and form a
>>    human net around them. Without touching them, guide them out the door.
>>    - Only if someone is physically violent do we respond with physical
>>    force.
>>
>> These responses would be absolute last resorts, and hopefully we would
>> never need to employ them. Still, even if we tighten down our entrance
>> policies, we should be ready to respond to people who are abusing the space
>> and its membership. This way, we'll be prepared to respond in a way that's
>> aligned with our values.
>>
>> Are there other ideas about how to deal with these types of situations?
>> I've reached out to some radical spaces back in Austin to see how they
>> would respond. If there are other spaces in town that might have some
>> perspective or techniques, it'd be great to hear from them too.
>>
>> -null
>>
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