[sudo-discuss] [omni-discuss] Elliot Hughes

[Ryan]

I disagree. (With very little stake in this specific discussion, but in
these kinds of discussions in general.)

I think that it is impossible to first discuss someone's violent behavior
with them present. Many people may feel too intimidated to speak up, if the
perpetrator of violence is present. Because of this, it is not "fair and
just" to have the person accused of violence present at all discussions.

After a discussion (to which the person accused of violence is not present)
has been facilitated, it is more possible to facilitate a discussion with
them present, in order to get "both sides."

On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 3:06 PM, joseph liesner <blue393 at lmi.net> wrote:

> I think it is imperative that when Sudo has a meeting to
> discuss and/or vote on Matt's proposal that such a meeting
> be open o the public, at a convenient time and day, and
> that Elliot and witnesses to his violent behavior be present.
> Otherwise I would be unable to know if our policies are
> fair and just.
> joe
> On Jan 12, 2015, at 2:34 PM, Matthew Senate wrote:
>
> While I wasn't there for this latest instance, this is the second time in
> our new location (I was present the first time) and at least the fourth
> instance related to sudo room, of Elliot escalating a situation to a
> physical, even violent, response on his part.
>
> I am no longer willing to tolerate this behavior and continue to risk all
> the love, care, and work that goes into making all of omni commons, and
> each collective, a thriving and safer community and space.
>
> In sum, it seems evident that Elliot's continued involvement in omni
> commons is already a greater cost, and even greater potential risk, than a
> revocation of his privilege to use the space.
>
> I propose sudo room in particular revoke Elliot's non-member privilege to
> access the sudo room, and therefore the omni commons, until Elliot can
> provide the sudo room membership with tangible evidence of a new investment
> in the prevention of physical violence and marked improvement of his own
> behavior in this regard.
>
> // Matt
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