[sudo-discuss] Sudoroom electrical plans

Sat Sep 6 19:11:33 PDT 2014

Hi Dave,

Sorry for adding to the confusion. The fridges, freezers and autoclave I
talked about are for Counter Culture Labs (CCL), on the other side of the
hall from Sudo Room. The diagrams you've seen are for Sudo Room - we
haven't come up with a wiring diagram for CCL yet (and we could use some
help with that!) Other than the robot arm, Sudo will likely use quite a bit
less power than CCL.

Patrik

On Sat, Sep 6, 2014 at 4:01 PM, Dave Pedroli <davepedroli at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Going over your emails and PDFs it looks good however putting more than a
> couple outlets on a breaker will end up being problematic.  Yes
> refrigerators are smaller loads but there will be a time when someone opens
> all one after the other and they try to start all at once blowing a breaker
> and defrosting... Autoclaves typically need their own circuit etc ...  13
> outlets with 4 breakers is pushing it. If the majority of use was to be
> laptops and soldering irons ok but the minute a heat gun is plugged in
> poof, you blow a breaker. With electricity and parachutes it's best to
> start out right rather than build up to it.  I'll go over the PDFs on my
> iPad later and let you know what I think.  The layout looks fine, the
> number of outlets looks good it's just the the number of circuits
> (breakets) that needs improving.
>
>
> Dave
>
> Somewhere on the bonneville salt flats
>
>
> Sent from the surveillance van
>
> > On Sep 5, 2014, at 3:58 PM, Jake <jake at spaz.org> wrote:
> >
> > I believe the electrical panel in the balcony only supplies one or two
> things (not including the robot, which is a temporary connection)
> >
> > I think we should look into simply moving that breaker box down ten feet
> so it faces the server room, and be done with it.
> >
> >> On Fri, 5 Sep 2014, Whitney Lawrence wrote:
> >>
> >> Howdy,Let me begin with thanking you for looking at the proposal. Your
> interpretation of the plans is
> >> correct.{ Main -> above stage panel -> balcony panel } is how the
> proposed plan is drawn. There is enough room
> >> in the balcony panel (which is the one located in the small room that
> shares a wall with the server loft of
> >> sudoroom) to accomplish phase 1 of the proposal. The proposal is based
> on instruction received to minimize
> >> cost. Ideally, there would be a main panel breaker that supplies a sub
> panel for all of sudo's needs (phase 1
> >> and phase 2). I can't accurately guess at a cost number for this type
> of installation. Figure a 100amp sub
> >> with hundreds of feet of 2awg plus breaker box plus breakers plus
> conduit plus hardware. All depending on if
> >> the main service can even handle the additional power demands (hiring
> an electrician to run the calcs).
> >> Ballpark $3-5k maybe- but its really a shot in the dark?
> >> My experience with this type of thing is there is always a better way
> to do it, if you go the money.
> >> A middle road is to plan on having the future sudo-sub panel placed
> near the balcony panel. Build in an extra
> >> 5ft or so of wire for the future transition into the new sudo-sub
> panel. All that would be needed is to remove
> >> the breakers from the old box re-run wire from J-box 1 to the new
> sudo-sub, as well as re-routing the 240V
> >> lines from the above stage panel to the sudo-sub (and of course preform
> all the main -> suod-sub work).
> >> as far as existing vs proposed. only the sub panels mentioned above
> exist currently- I'll make a note to call
> >> out the existing stuff in the drawings.
> >> Thanks,
> >> Whit
> >> On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 11:42 AM, Cere Mona Davis <ceremona at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>      Hi everyone.  It's the first time I have looked at these plans and
> I have some questions and
> >>      thoughts.  Dave said he won't be able to respond to this email
> until a couple of days as he is out
> >>      in the boonies somewhere.  So I am writing in to expedite some
> issues that I think he will likely
> >>      bring up in the days ahead.
> >> Whit, thanks for drawing up these plans!  For someone who is not
> intimately familiar with our electrical
> >> layout the plans might need a more clear description of existing
> electrical vs. proposed new electrical,
> >> however.
> >> In multiple conversations with Dave (and one on-site visit) he has
> mentioned repeatedly that we will
> >> want to shoot for putting in another sub panel for the sudoroom off of
> the main panel as the end-game;
> >> rather than daisy-chaining off of an existing panel (the balcony) as
> what seems to be proposed here.
> >> If we can't immediately put in a sub panel into the room, due to cost,
> we should at-least be planning
> >> for conduit and wiring paths, etc that allows for a sudoroom sub-panel
> in the future.
> >> Thoughts?
> >> -Cere
> >>
> >> On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 10:23 AM, <hol at gaskill.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>      Thanks Yar!  Whit can you liaise w/ Dave RE how much of the work
> is going to be done under
> >>      the first permit?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>      Cheers,
> >>
> >>      Hol
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 2014-09-04 23:16, yar wrote:
> >> Hi all, Dave Pedroli is a certified electrician who's offered to
> >> review our plans to give them an okay. I'm copying him and the people
> >> who've been most involved with electrical work.
> >> Dave, the latest plans are attached, and also available online[1].
> >> Could you please look them over and write us a few formal-sounding
> >> sentences that boil down to "hello I am a real electrician and I say
> >> these plans are solid"? This will help us make the landlord happy so
> >> he will let us do them. Thank you!!
> >> [1]
> https://lists.sudoroom.org/pipermail/sudo-discuss/2014-August/007369.html
> >> --
> >> Best Regards,
> >> Cere Davis
> >> ceremona at gmail.com
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