[sudo-discuss] [backspace] Re: [BAPS-Organizing] Re: Backspace Space proposal

Mon Oct 20 17:16:33 PDT 2014

This is really wonderful everyone.

THANK YOU <3 <3 <3

margaretha anne haughwout
uncli*que* <http://beforebefore.net>, disconnect
<margaretha.anne.haughwout at gmail.com>

On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 3:08 PM, Donald Hughes <kamiyodojo.ca at gmail.com>
wrote:

>    So what I am hearing is that we are all supportive of each other.  I
> hear general consensus on Backspace being able to schedule time in the
> Dance Room, the Den, and the downstairs space next to the lift.  No one
> wants any one else to not be able to have access to these spaces, but we
> would like the ability to begin scheduling in these rooms. I hear people
> not being opposed to the idea that we get the EyeBall room and that it is
> lockable.  So it seems as though we have the rudiments of agreement.
>     Nikki, I would like to address what you are asking for.  We need to
> have something certain to give to other professionals who would like to use
> the space for healing or classes.  This has not yet manifested, so it is
> difficult to tell you exactly what the time and space looks like as of
> yet.  My goal would be that we have this mostly fleshed out by November
> 1st, and have everything totally solidified by December 1st.
>    But what I think we can do in the meantime, is offer basically our
> proposal.  Which is to have scheduling power over 50% of the Den.  But we
> also want to be able to schedule time in the other spaces in conjunction
> with the other collectives who want a say in those spaces.  To my mind it
> seems fair that when we schedule something in other spaces we give up some
> of our scheduling time in the Den.  But none of this is worked out.  I just
> think this is something that could be fair and will work.
>   In order to move forward on a Nov1st start date for the clinic, we would
> need the ability to schedule time at least in the EyeBall room, which I
> would like to start calling the clinic room.  We would need this ASAP as it
> will take a process to get new members who are willing to pay money for
> space to do their practices.  I hope this helps us to move forward.  Note
> that these are my opinions and do not necessarily reflect the opinions of
> the rest of Backspace.
>
> Thank you everyone,
>
> Don
>
> On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 4:07 PM, niki <niki.shelley at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Agreed! Thank you, Yar!
>>
>> I also want to assure everyone involved that my bringing up issues around
>> money is meant only to make the material realities of this project visible,
>> so that there are no surprises and to encourage member groups to be
>> explicit about what they can and cannot contribute. It's important that we
>> reconfigure our expenses to reflect changes in member groups contributions
>> in order to accurately project our needs.
>>
>> That said, I had a conversation with Margaretha some time ago in which I
>> said that having Backspace involved in the Omni was way more important to
>> me than their financial contribution.
>>
>> I know it's very hard for us to talk about money. I am hopeful that we
>> can be clear and open so that we may begin to
>> replace feelings of shame, anxiety and anger around money with feelings
>> of compassion and support.
>>
>> I LOVE BACKSPACE and really want to help support it in coming into being
>> in whatever way I can.
>>
>> <3 <3
>>
>> N
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 11:25 AM, Sara Larsen <saralarsenyoga at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I want to thank you Yar for this incredible letter. Needless to say, I
>>> support the views you expressed 100%!
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 8:40 AM, Scott Nanos <scott.nanos at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I agree 200% w/ yar and hope we can come to a conclusion that works for
>>>> all of us (particularly for backspace). I can't come to this thurs meeting
>>>> but my fingers are crossed double crossed triple crossed. Hoping Baps and
>>>> backspace can team up to become champions of the commons <3
>>>>
>>>> Xo
>>>>
>>>> Scott
>>>>
>>>> > On Oct 20, 2014, at 8:28 AM, yar <yardenack at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 12:58 PM, yar <yardenack at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >> It's not your fault, it's not anybody else's fault either. I really
>>>> >> hope the confusion isn't interpreted as bad faith or a lack of
>>>> >> support. We all need to get better at that, of course, but also get
>>>> >> better at forgiving each others' mistakes, in the spirit of jubilee.
>>>> >
>>>> > I want to just reiterate this in light of the past few days of
>>>> > conversation. I have heard a lot of different narratives about what
>>>> > happened with Backspace over the past few months. I don't claim to
>>>> > know exactly what happened anymore, but it seems to boil down to a
>>>> > huge string of communication failures that resulted in Backspace
>>>> > paying for space to operate, yet having no space until now.
>>>> >
>>>> > At Thursday's meeting, the subject of past-due utility bills came up,
>>>> > but it seems apropos to mention that lots of Omni groups have not paid
>>>> > utility bills, or even rent, and one of the amazing potential things
>>>> > about Omni is our capacity to be a non-evil landlord - each according
>>>> > to their ability and their need.
>>>> >
>>>> > It's clear that most backspace folks are WORKERS whose primary concern
>>>> > is being able to see their clients and students and make a living
>>>> > wage. It's also clear to me that the primary benefit of having
>>>> > Backspace at Omni is NOT the money they'd bring in, but the new
>>>> > people, energy and perspectives. It would REALLY SUCK if we lost all
>>>> > that by fighting with them over money.
>>>> >
>>>> > Other than money, the only other concern I'm hearing about this
>>>> > proposal is about space. While I have expressed concerns about
>>>> > "enclosure" in the past, Backspace's plans for the den or "storage
>>>> > room" are NOT enclosures. They're stewardship of commons. This is
>>>> > exactly the model I always dreamed of for our building!
>>>> >
>>>> > Finally, there's BAPS. I think it might help to separate BAPS'
>>>> > pragmatic need to host many evening classes from BAPS' position as a
>>>> > roving "nomadic" group without dedicated space, and both from the
>>>> > concept of "enclosure". Because it seems to me like Backspace's
>>>> > pragmatic needs are similar to BAPS - to assemble in spaces and occupy
>>>> > them for a finite period, for classes and 1-on-1 sessions. So what are
>>>> > the ways we can frame this as a collaboration rather than a
>>>> > competition?
>>>> >
>>>> > I think these problems would get solved a lot faster if we were all
>>>> > able to trust each other, the best path to building trust is for
>>>> > Backspace to begin operating at the Omni ASAP, and the best way for
>>>> > that to happen is to show support and forgiveness all around. Thanks.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>>
>>> Let us be together,
>>> Let us eat together,
>>> Let us be vital together,
>>> Let us be radiating truth,
>>> radiating the light of life,
>>> Never shall we denounce anyone,
>>> never entertain negativity.                                          --
>>> The Upanishads
>>>
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