[sudo-discuss] [omni-consensus] [BAPS-Organizing] Re: Backspace Space proposal

[Cere Mona Davis]

I am "trying" to stay away from Omni email for a while but I just wanted to
quickly say that I am really in support of any Embodiment focus that Omni
can bring into it's fold.  I feel like any practice which refocuses
attention on the physical and emotional senses is badly needed right now
during this trying time of heady/heated emails and meetings.  I personally
cannot wait for Backspace to "move-in" in whatever form it will eventually
take.

Thank you everyone for your amazing work.  Breathe.

On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 1:50 PM, D. Scott Nanos <scott.nanos at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Sara,
>
> what i offered last night was (i believe,) slightly different than what we
> talked about in person, if i remember correctly. I think i even voiced the
> same idea at that meeting...
>
> my idea was to have no dedicated large space for either baps or backspace,
> but to rather declare these areas as common spaces and ensure that both
> BAPS and BS have the hours and space they need to hold classes/workshops
> etc. The initial BS proposal was, I believe, one dedicated space for baps,
> and some separate dedicated space for BS. I think i even remember asking
> you right at the end to just include BAPS in your proposal w/o division of
> common space, and then the next day i got the email that backspace was
> removing baps from the proposal. Which is totally ok! I and some other
> members want to wait one more week to see if there's any other way we could
> go about the den, but i, as well as everyone at BAPS meeting last night, is
> totally in favor of BS and the proposal! We/I love you and backspace!! <3
>
> maybe this is too semantic and nit-picky and based on fear. maybe we do
> need to have more good faith. these are questions i thought about last
> night too... your concerns are warranted, and i feel them as well.
> Also the necessity for large dedicated space for BAPS and BS might be
> ultimately necessary. someone at Baps said last night that we may be
> setting ourselves up to be pushed out of the omni due to our lofty ideals
> and resistance to having dedicated space.
>
> BAPS consented last night on giving BS designated space of porthole room
> and TIL/kids room asap, and to wait one week to think about any creative
> solution to the den. It's my thinking that essentially all BS needs right
> now is a.) storage for mats tinctures etc etc, and b.) a small room for
> 1on1's. Right now, no one is using the den or the disco room in any
> official manner so, our thinking at BAPS last night was that BS could
> effectively start doing everything they wanted to right now, by having the
> TIL/kids room and the porthole room (BS could even use the bunker/haunted
> classroom in the interim until TIL moves upstairs)?
>
> But also, this is all flexible, I'm personally not 100% sure about this
> "counter-proposal" coming from BAPS, although at the moment it seems like
> the best option, one that helps BS too and doesn't run the risk of making a
> big decision too quickly? for the record, BAPS is also taking off our own
> designated space proposal, to my knowledge, or is at the very least
> rewording it so that it is common space as opposed to designated space,
> with the assumption that BAPS and commons wg would work together on it (or
> something like that- yesterday's meeting was constructive but confusing-
> everyone is trying to do the best they can, i promise!)
>
> that being said, there is *absolutely* (!) no one saying no to BS. BAPS
> <3's BS. I <3 BS. BAPS <3 Sara. I <3 Sara. And i'm so sorry for the trouble
> this is causing you!!!
>
> BAPS strongly thinks that one more week would be a good idea (for the den
> space only) in order to have a little more time to think creatively about
> it. BAPS wants BS to have the other spaces ASAP b/c it seems like BS could
> effectively start asap if ya'll had those spaces to use...
>
> But also, nothing is set in stone, let's talk about this tonight with
> love. It was even surprising how, w/in the Baps meeting, basically everyone
> had a different opinion re: what to do about common space, space for BAPS,
> and space for BS. But one thing is for certain, at least in my mind: that
> Backspace will have everything it needs to function and thrive. I care so
> much about healing and carework and i'm in desperate need of some care
> myself (just got diagnosed with cubital tunnel syndrome on monday, and i'm
> pretty sure i'm not the only bapser who suffers from it).
>
> love,
>
> Scott
>
>
>
>
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>
> On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 1:25 PM, Sara Larsen <saralarsenyoga at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Yar,
>>
>> Thanks so much for your email. I hope my email didn't sound like I think
>> anyone at the omni is acting in bad faith, because I don't. Everyone is
>> working hard to pull pieces together in a complex situation.
>>
>> I agree it's a complicated fog. My email was sent in the spirit of
>> openness, honesty and I hope, healing. I took a risk in saying a lot of
>> what I said in the hopes that others will also express the underlying
>> feelings coming up around this project. Dealing openly with these things is
>> one of the ways we can keep
>> the culture of the Omni healthy.
>>
>> Yar, I appreciate your work as well, which I know is vast and not always
>> easy!
>>
>> Re: my email about Scott's suggestion - I really just wanted to point out
>> that we had already suggested what he suggested, and it was not a new idea.
>> In my opinion, however, it is a good idea. My take away from that BAPS mtg
>> was that BAPS members were not ready to commit then or likely later to this
>> idea. I was encouraged to move forward with backspace on our own, which is
>> what I brought back to Backspace and is what we did.
>>
>> BAPS has since changed their idea and relationship to space due to a push
>> forward from some members who are worried about not having space. This is
>> in progress. But that change happened AFTER our meeting and after backspace
>> had taken the advice to move on. Being members of both groups at this time
>> is challenging for me, for obvious reasons.
>>
>> Backspace's rush is that we need space to open so that we can make money
>> so that we can pay rent and utilities to the Omni. If we can't do that, my
>> guess is that we will have to disband and then the Omni would lose
>> another member group, which I and I think no one else would like to see
>> happen.
>>
>> Xo
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, October 16, 2014, yar <yardenack at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thursday, October 16, 2014, Scott Nanos <scott.nanos at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >> Crazy idea but I'm also a little worried that BAPS and commons
>>> >> Wg don't have the labor power to handle all this commoning
>>> (pragmatically
>>> >> speaking, in the form of scheduling and organizing)...
>>> >>
>>> >> What if Baps, backspace, and commons wg all teamed up on these common
>>> >> spaces, granting *x* amount of privileged hours in specific areas for
>>> >> collectives?
>>>
>>> On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 8:18 AM, Sara Larsen <saralarsenyoga at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> > However, I feel like your suggestion is exactly what I was trying to
>>> move
>>> > forward with the BAPS backspace proposal that BAPS recently voted
>>> against
>>> > moving forward with!
>>>
>>> Is that what happened? I didn't go to every single meeting but my
>>> understanding was that BAPS were still open to it but needed more time
>>> to talk about it and make up their minds, and Backspace just doesn't
>>> want to wait any longer. It seemed (from the outside) like this
>>> urgency and time pressure for Backspace was the biggest reason why
>>> things didn't work out that way.
>>>
>>> It's not that I blame you. I can imagine how frustrating it is to try
>>> to organize a bunch of skeptical bodyworkers to do their work at Omni,
>>> this weird building full of construction debris, contentious politics,
>>> dysfunctional processes and so on. Trying to create a wellness
>>> collective at Omni at this time is an ambitious goal and I fully
>>> recognize and respect all the emotional labor that I've seen you and
>>> other Backspace folks put into it, Sara, and I want it to succeed too.
>>> I think the new energy and people you guys bring in will be an
>>> especially valuable thing for all of us and our communities.
>>>
>>> I only hope that you can try not to blame the rest of us either for
>>> the difficult situation. We've all been working very hard with what we
>>> have. I feel like we're reaching at each other through a fog of fear,
>>> uncertainty and doubt, trying to make high-stakes decisions that might
>>> affect us all years into the future, when we only have a few months or
>>> even weeks of experience being in some of our spaces and learning to
>>> know and trust all the people.
>>>
>>> There are so many rooms with different names. It's been 24 hours since
>>> your proposal and it's taken us this long just to be sure exactly
>>> which rooms you're talking about. There's confusion over what
>>> commoning means (the commons wg only started meeting 2 weeks ago),
>>> what scheduling will feel like (we're still developing the calendar
>>> system), what the rooms will look and feel like, whether people will
>>> clean up their messes like they say they will, and any number of
>>> hypothetical scarcities and disasters that we have no idea if the
>>> future might bring.
>>>
>>> It's not your fault, it's not anybody else's fault either. I really
>>> hope the confusion isn't interpreted as bad faith or a lack of
>>> support. We all need to get better at that, of course, but also get
>>> better at forgiving each others' mistakes, in the spirit of jubilee.
>>>
>>> Sorry for the rant, but thanks for listening. <3
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>> Let us be together,
>> Let us eat together,
>> Let us be vital together,
>> Let us be radiating truth,
>> radiating the light of life,
>> Never shall we denounce anyone,
>> never entertain negativity.                                          --
>> The Upanishads
>>
>>
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