[sudo-discuss] [sudo-board] !!!!! Re: URGENT: help finish state taxes

april glaser april.glaser at riseup.net
Thu Nov 6 12:40:28 PST 2014


+1 you can not come off as campaigning if you're a 501 in anyway
On 11/6/14 12:35 PM, Matthew Senate wrote:
> I already caught one* EXTREMELY IMPORTANT MISTAKE *please read this
> document in full and provide feedback ASAP. 
>
> Seriously. Help.
>
> I removed "city governance candidates meet and greets" from Side 3,
> Part II, Question 8.
>
> It's very important that sudo room does not come off as affecting
> political campaigns. This is a huge red flag for the IRS!
>
> Note in Section D there is even a question:
>
> "Does the organization support or oppose candidates in political
> campaigns in any way?"
>
> To which our answer is an emphatic "No"
>
> Further, sudo room has never (and in my heart of hearts I hope /will
> never/) host governance candidates for any intentional purpose other
> than simply as community participants like anyone else.
>
> // Matt
>
> On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 12:14 PM, Whitney Lawrence
> <whitneyel3 at gmail.com <mailto:whitneyel3 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     I'll print out the f3500 and have it in hand this afternoon at Sudo. 
>
>     On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 12:07 PM, Matthew Senate
>     <mattsenate at gmail.com <mailto:mattsenate at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>         in case you can't open those PDFs, here are updated ones that
>         should work (attached)
>
>         This was my issue,
>         d'oh: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=703377
>
>         On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 11:57 PM, Matthew Senate
>         <mattsenate at gmail.com <mailto:mattsenate at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>             Hey all,
>
>             Attached are a draft of the compiled From 3500 Exemption
>             Application as well as a checklist that was provided in
>             the "Instruction Booklet" I sent in my original email.
>
>             Please review existing content, check for missing bits,
>             and improve!
>
>             // Matt
>
>             On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 4:54 PM, Jenny Ryan
>             <tunabananas at gmail.com <mailto:tunabananas at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>                 Hi, 
>
>                 I won't be available until 4:30 tomorrow, but intend
>                 to be at sudo by then to finalize the paper trail :)
>
>                 Thanks Whit for all of your awesomeness!!
>
>                 Jenny
>                 http://jennyryan.net <http://jennyryan.net/>
>                 http://thepyre.org <http://thepyre.org/>
>                 http://thevirtualcampfire.org
>                 <http://thevirtualcampfire.org/>
>                 http://technomadic.tumblr.com
>                 <http://technomadic.tumblr.com/>
>
>                 `~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
>                 "Technology is the campfire around which we tell our
>                 stories."
>                 -Laurie Anderson
>
>                 "Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the
>                 error of defining it."
>                  -Hannah Arendt
>
>                 "To define is to kill. To suggest is to create."
>                 -Stéphane Mallarmé
>                 ~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
>
>                 On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 3:52 PM, Whitney Lawrence
>                 <whitneyel3 at gmail.com <mailto:whitneyel3 at gmail.com>>
>                 wrote:
>
>                     I get off work early tomorrow and can pick up the
>                     slack. The package will be mailed on Friday the
>                     7th, unless otherwise instructed. Accordingly, be
>                     advised if the role you were assigned is not
>                     fulfilled in a timely manner then that section
>                     will be blank and will likely result in a
>                     rejection of our application- no pressure. Please
>                     make every effort to complete  your tasks by
>                     tomorrow by 4pm, I will be compiling the document
>                     with Vicky and Jenny around that time (I'll get
>                     off work around then). 
>
>                     As of now this is the status of everything to my
>                     knowledge (I welcome corrections):
>
>                     ACTION ITEMS:
>
>                     --Edit Questions 8
>                     -Matt https://pad.riseup.net/p/sudostatetaxes
>                     --Review part VI No. 1&3-
>                     Matt https://pad.riseup.net/p/sudostatetaxes
>                     --Review bylaws and make edits where necessary.
>                     Modifications will not be content related. -Whit
>                     --Review edited bylaws- Whit will send revised
>                     version to Matt and he can upload them to the wiki
>                     where everyone can look them over. 
>                     --Print part IV- Whit (this is address etc.
>                     information of the BOD. I will not be uploading
>                     this to any wiki/drive/riseup for privacy reasons) 
>                     --Maintain possession of relevant documents - Vicky
>                     -------- Form - 3500 working copy
>                     -------- Rental and lease agreement
>                     -------- Articles of Inc.
>                     -------- Check for $25
>                     -------- Bank Statements
>                     -------- Bylaws (awaiting action by Whit) 
>                     -------- Letter from FTB non tax exempt status letter
>                     --Compile package - Vicky & Whit
>                     --Copy Edit/Review - Jenny (EVERYTHING WE ATTACH
>                     MUST INCLUDE ORG NAME AND STATE ID NUMBER C3617428)
>
>                     Known Possible Problems:
>                     There was not  consensus as to the existence of
>                     SI-100 nor CT-1 forms which we should have filled
>                     out and submitted previously. If anyone knows
>                     where they might be or can obtain a copy please
>                     let me know ASAP. If they don't show up then they
>                     wont be in our submission. 
>                     Copy of receipts and expenses- We are assuming
>                     bank statements will suffice, and that might not
>                     be appropriate.  
>
>                     Please take action and/or email me corrections or
>                     otherwise inform me of any mistakes/omissions. 
>
>                     You may call me at 510.396.5510 <tel:510.396.5510>
>
>                     -Whit
>
>
>
>
>                     On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 2:02 PM, april glaser
>                     <april.glaser at riseup.net
>                     <mailto:april.glaser at riseup.net>> wrote:
>
>                         HI there,
>
>                         I have no time to work on this for the rest of
>                         the week. Completely buried in stuff at work
>                         that's on an uncompromising and unpredictable
>                         timeline.
>
>                          Can someone else handle or bottom line
>                         formatting the bylaws in a way that can be
>                         sent and working with Vicky and Whitney to
>                         insert all the work we did into the form,
>                         checking it 100 times, and shipping it out?
>
>                         Thanks,
>                         April
>
>                         On 11/2/14 9:56 PM, Julio Rios wrote:
>>                         I probably won't be there Tuesday because
>>                         Diana is coming back from a long trip, but
>>                         let me know if there are outstanding issues I
>>                         can help with in the meantime.
>>
>>                         On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 9:39 PM,
>>                         <hol at gaskill.com <mailto:hol at gaskill.com>> wrote:
>>
>>                             i'll be there tues to plan for the space
>>                             hackathon and can drop in.  thanks april
>>                             for leading the charge!
>>
>>                              
>>
>>                              
>>
>>                             On 2014-11-02 19:54, april glaser wrote:
>>
>>>                             Thanks all! Totally inspiring to see
>>>                             everyone jumping in here.
>>>
>>>                             Good to know I don't have to review the
>>>                             articles of association, and in that
>>>                             case, I'm going to start going over and
>>>                             formatting the bylaws and articles of
>>>                             incorporation to include in our submission.
>>>
>>>                             It now looks like every little
>>>                             responsibility has been bottom lined.
>>>
>>>                             *I propose that those who can, meet on
>>>                             Tuesday at 7 at Sudoroom to collect what
>>>                             we have so far and whip up a near-final
>>>                             draft. Vicky, Whit and I can make it. If
>>>                             you can't please send along whatever
>>>                             part you worked on* so we can compile
>>>                             things and compliment you behind your back.
>>>
>>>                             a.
>>>
>>>                             On 11/2/14 7:31 PM, Maximilian Klein wrote:
>>>>                             Whit, sending you my address now privately.
>>>>                             April et al, this is the filled out
>>>>                             financials with bank statements attached.
>>>>
>>>>                             Make a great day,
>>>>                             Max Klein ‽ http://notconfusing.com/
>>>>
>>>>                             On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 7:09 PM, Jenny
>>>>                             Ryan <tunabananas at gmail.com
>>>>                             <mailto:tunabananas at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>                                 Whit, do you need help getting all
>>>>                                 names and addresses of the Board
>>>>                                 members?
>>>>                                  
>>>>                                 Anca M
>>>>                                 <https://sudoroom.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=User:Anca&action=edit&redlink=1>,
>>>>                                 Hol G
>>>>                                 <https://sudoroom.org/wiki/User:Hol>,
>>>>                                 Jenny R
>>>>                                 <https://sudoroom.org/wiki/User:Tunabananas>,
>>>>                                 Julio R, Liberty M, Marc J
>>>>                                 <https://sudoroom.org/wiki/User:Juul>
>>>>                                 [treasurer], Marina K
>>>>                                 <https://sudoroom.org/wiki/User:Mk30>,
>>>>                                 Matt S
>>>>                                 <https://sudoroom.org/wiki/User:Matt>,
>>>>                                 Max K
>>>>                                 <https://sudoroom.org/wiki/User:Maximilianklein>,
>>>>                                 Naomi M, Romy I, Troy M, Vicky K
>>>>                                 <https://sudoroom.org/wiki/User:YkciV>. 
>>>>                                  
>>>>                                 I know the addresses of 6 outta 13:
>>>>                                 Jenny, Liberty, Marc, Marina, Matt,
>>>>                                 and Vicky. Will send to you in a pm.
>>>>
>>>>                                 Jenny
>>>>                                 http://jennyryan.net
>>>>                                 <http://jennyryan.net/>
>>>>                                 http://thepyre.org
>>>>                                 <http://thepyre.org/>
>>>>                                 http://thevirtualcampfire.org
>>>>                                 <http://thevirtualcampfire.org/>
>>>>                                 http://technomadic.tumblr.com
>>>>                                 <http://technomadic.tumblr.com/>
>>>>
>>>>                                 `~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
>>>>                                 "Technology is the campfire around
>>>>                                 which we tell our stories."
>>>>                                 -Laurie Anderson
>>>>
>>>>                                 "Storytelling reveals meaning
>>>>                                 without committing the error of
>>>>                                 defining it."
>>>>                                  -Hannah Arendt
>>>>
>>>>                                 "To define is to kill. To suggest
>>>>                                 is to create."
>>>>                                 -Stéphane Mallarmé
>>>>                                 ~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
>>>>                                 On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 6:32 PM,
>>>>                                 Maximilian Klein <isalix at gmail.com
>>>>                                 <mailto:isalix at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>                                     Yes, I am bottom lining Part
>>>>                                     III Side 4
>>>>
>>>>                                     Make a great day,
>>>>                                     Max Klein ‽
>>>>                                     http://notconfusing.com/
>>>>
>>>>                                     On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 6:08 PM,
>>>>                                     Jenny Ryan
>>>>                                     <tunabananas at gmail.com
>>>>                                     <mailto:tunabananas at gmail.com>>
>>>>                                     wrote:
>>>>
>>>>                                         Attached is a copy of sudo
>>>>                                         room's lease from 2141
>>>>                                         Broadway, but it's unsigned.
>>>>                                          
>>>>                                         Matt, do you have a signed
>>>>                                         copy?
>>>>
>>>>                                         Jenny
>>>>                                         http://jennyryan.net
>>>>                                         <http://jennyryan.net/>
>>>>                                         http://thepyre.org
>>>>                                         <http://thepyre.org/>
>>>>                                         http://thevirtualcampfire.org
>>>>                                         <http://thevirtualcampfire.org/>
>>>>                                         http://technomadic.tumblr.com
>>>>                                         <http://technomadic.tumblr.com/>
>>>>
>>>>                                         `~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
>>>>                                         "Technology is the campfire
>>>>                                         around which we tell our
>>>>                                         stories."
>>>>                                         -Laurie Anderson
>>>>
>>>>                                         "Storytelling reveals
>>>>                                         meaning without committing
>>>>                                         the error of defining it."
>>>>                                          -Hannah Arendt
>>>>
>>>>                                         "To define is to kill. To
>>>>                                         suggest is to create."
>>>>                                         -Stéphane Mallarmé
>>>>                                         ~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
>>>>                                         On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 5:58
>>>>                                         PM, Julio Rios
>>>>                                         <julio.rios at gmail.com
>>>>                                         <mailto:julio.rios at gmail.com>>
>>>>                                         wrote:
>>>>
>>>>                                             Thanks Jenny. I think
>>>>                                             we needed the 2013
>>>>                                             lease agreement. 
>>>>
>>>>                                             On Nov 2, 2014 5:40 PM,
>>>>                                             "Jenny Ryan"
>>>>                                             <tunabananas at gmail.com
>>>>                                             <mailto:tunabananas at gmail.com>>
>>>>                                             wrote:
>>>>
>>>>                                                 I can fill out the
>>>>                                                 parts about
>>>>                                                 fundraising,
>>>>                                                 procure a copy of
>>>>                                                 the (Current?)
>>>>                                                 lease, and
>>>>                                                 proofread the final.
>>>>                                                  
>>>>                                                 Thanks so much to
>>>>                                                 all who are helping
>>>>                                                 with this!! <3
>>>>
>>>>                                                 Jenny
>>>>                                                 http://jennyryan.net <http://jennyryan.net/>
>>>>                                                 http://thepyre.org
>>>>                                                 <http://thepyre.org/>
>>>>                                                 http://thevirtualcampfire.org
>>>>                                                 <http://thevirtualcampfire.org/>
>>>>                                                 http://technomadic.tumblr.com
>>>>                                                 <http://technomadic.tumblr.com/>
>>>>
>>>>                                                 `~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
>>>>                                                 "Technology is the
>>>>                                                 campfire around
>>>>                                                 which we tell our
>>>>                                                 stories."
>>>>                                                 -Laurie Anderson
>>>>
>>>>                                                 "Storytelling
>>>>                                                 reveals meaning
>>>>                                                 without committing
>>>>                                                 the error of
>>>>                                                 defining it."
>>>>                                                  -Hannah Arendt
>>>>
>>>>                                                 "To define is to
>>>>                                                 kill. To suggest is
>>>>                                                 to create."
>>>>                                                 -Stéphane Mallarmé
>>>>                                                 ~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
>>>>
>>>>                                                 On Sun, Nov 2, 2014
>>>>                                                 at 4:19 PM,
>>>>                                                 <hol at gaskill.com
>>>>                                                 <mailto:hol at gaskill.com>>
>>>>                                                 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>                                                     >Yes, I agree. We need not, and should not, submit our Articles of
>>>>                                                     Association to the state. The 3500 refers to articles of
>>>>                                                     incorporation.
>>>>
>>>>                                                     This has been the plan whenever we've discussed it.  The articles of /association/ are for our use and are intended to be updated freely without any legal weight, just the weight of our belief in the system we are creating.
>>>>
>>>>                                                      
>>>>
>>>>                                                      
>>>>
>>>>                                                     On 2014-11-02
>>>>                                                     10:24, yar wrote:
>>>>
>>>>                                                         On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 9:42 AM, Julio Rios <julio.rios at gmail.com <mailto:julio.rios at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>                                                             In
>>>>                                                             theory,
>>>>                                                             since
>>>>                                                             the
>>>>                                                             Articles of
>>>>                                                             Association
>>>>                                                             can
>>>>                                                             change,
>>>>                                                             and
>>>>                                                             they
>>>>                                                             are
>>>>                                                             actually what
>>>>                                                             govern
>>>>                                                             sudo
>>>>                                                             room,
>>>>                                                             so it
>>>>                                                             may be
>>>>                                                             better
>>>>                                                             not to
>>>>                                                             submit
>>>>                                                             them.... Although
>>>>                                                             the
>>>>                                                             latest
>>>>                                                             version
>>>>                                                             should
>>>>                                                             be on
>>>>                                                             the
>>>>                                                             wiki, I
>>>>                                                             don't
>>>>                                                             think
>>>>                                                             this is
>>>>                                                             relevant for
>>>>                                                             the
>>>>                                                             state
>>>>                                                             and
>>>>                                                             federal
>>>>                                                             paperwork.
>>>>
>>>>                                                         Yes, I agree. We need not, and should not, submit our Articles of
>>>>                                                         Association to the state. The 3500 refers to articles of
>>>>                                                         incorporation. Most organizations don't have "articles of
>>>>                                                         association". It's just a weird anarchist thing that we did over a
>>>>                                                         year before we became any sort of legal entity. :)
>>>>
>>>>                                                             If it
>>>>                                                             hasn't
>>>>                                                             happened already,
>>>>                                                             we
>>>>                                                             should
>>>>                                                             also
>>>>                                                             gain
>>>>                                                             consensus
>>>>                                                             on the
>>>>                                                             bylaws
>>>>                                                             and
>>>>                                                             articles [of
>>>>                                                             incorporation]
>>>>                                                             before
>>>>                                                             submitting
>>>>                                                             them. I
>>>>                                                             believe
>>>>                                                             Yar
>>>>                                                             said we
>>>>                                                             never
>>>>                                                             submitted
>>>>                                                             the
>>>>                                                             bylaws
>>>>                                                             because
>>>>                                                             we
>>>>                                                             never
>>>>                                                             gained
>>>>                                                             consensus.
>>>>                                                             Is
>>>>                                                             there
>>>>                                                             an
>>>>                                                             expedited
>>>>                                                             process
>>>>                                                             for
>>>>                                                             getting
>>>>                                                             a
>>>>                                                             decision on
>>>>                                                             this?
>>>>                                                             In
>>>>                                                             theory,
>>>>                                                             this is
>>>>                                                             due on
>>>>                                                             Nov 7,
>>>>                                                             although I've
>>>>                                                             heard
>>>>                                                             the
>>>>                                                             penalties
>>>>                                                             for
>>>>                                                             delay
>>>>                                                             are not
>>>>                                                             severe.
>>>>
>>>>                                                         Consensus
>>>>                                                         was never
>>>>                                                         really the
>>>>                                                         issue.
>>>>                                                         Laziness
>>>>                                                         was the
>>>>                                                         issue.
>>>>                                                         There were
>>>>                                                         a number of
>>>>                                                         Sudoroom
>>>>                                                         meetings
>>>>                                                         last year
>>>>                                                         where
>>>>                                                         consensus
>>>>                                                         was clear
>>>>                                                         about the
>>>>                                                         direction
>>>>                                                         we wanted
>>>>                                                         to go, but
>>>>                                                         it was just
>>>>                                                         never
>>>>                                                         implemented. If
>>>>                                                         we can have
>>>>                                                         something
>>>>                                                         ready to
>>>>                                                         read on
>>>>                                                         Wednesday
>>>>                                                         and mail on
>>>>                                                         Thursday,
>>>>                                                         that's
>>>>                                                         icing on
>>>>                                                         the cake,
>>>>                                                         but I say
>>>>                                                         just do
>>>>                                                         what we
>>>>                                                         need to do
>>>>                                                         for now,
>>>>                                                         including
>>>>                                                         mailing it
>>>>                                                         before
>>>>                                                         Wednesday
>>>>                                                         if need be.
>>>>                                                         From what I
>>>>                                                         understand,
>>>>                                                         we'll have
>>>>                                                         the chance
>>>>                                                         to change
>>>>                                                         things
>>>>                                                         again when
>>>>                                                         we do 501c3
>>>>                                                         so it's
>>>>                                                         just an
>>>>                                                         interim
>>>>                                                         document.
>>>>                                                         ______________________________
>>>>
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