[sudo-discuss] [sudo-board] !!!!! Re: URGENT: help finish state taxes
april glaser
april.glaser at riseup.net
Thu Nov 6 12:40:28 PST 2014
+1 you can not come off as campaigning if you're a 501 in anyway
On 11/6/14 12:35 PM, Matthew Senate wrote:
> I already caught one* EXTREMELY IMPORTANT MISTAKE *please read this
> document in full and provide feedback ASAP.
>
> Seriously. Help.
>
> I removed "city governance candidates meet and greets" from Side 3,
> Part II, Question 8.
>
> It's very important that sudo room does not come off as affecting
> political campaigns. This is a huge red flag for the IRS!
>
> Note in Section D there is even a question:
>
> "Does the organization support or oppose candidates in political
> campaigns in any way?"
>
> To which our answer is an emphatic "No"
>
> Further, sudo room has never (and in my heart of hearts I hope /will
> never/) host governance candidates for any intentional purpose other
> than simply as community participants like anyone else.
>
> // Matt
>
> On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 12:14 PM, Whitney Lawrence
> <whitneyel3 at gmail.com <mailto:whitneyel3 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> I'll print out the f3500 and have it in hand this afternoon at Sudo.
>
> On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 12:07 PM, Matthew Senate
> <mattsenate at gmail.com <mailto:mattsenate at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> in case you can't open those PDFs, here are updated ones that
> should work (attached)
>
> This was my issue,
> d'oh: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=703377
>
> On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 11:57 PM, Matthew Senate
> <mattsenate at gmail.com <mailto:mattsenate at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Hey all,
>
> Attached are a draft of the compiled From 3500 Exemption
> Application as well as a checklist that was provided in
> the "Instruction Booklet" I sent in my original email.
>
> Please review existing content, check for missing bits,
> and improve!
>
> // Matt
>
> On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 4:54 PM, Jenny Ryan
> <tunabananas at gmail.com <mailto:tunabananas at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I won't be available until 4:30 tomorrow, but intend
> to be at sudo by then to finalize the paper trail :)
>
> Thanks Whit for all of your awesomeness!!
>
> Jenny
> http://jennyryan.net <http://jennyryan.net/>
> http://thepyre.org <http://thepyre.org/>
> http://thevirtualcampfire.org
> <http://thevirtualcampfire.org/>
> http://technomadic.tumblr.com
> <http://technomadic.tumblr.com/>
>
> `~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
> "Technology is the campfire around which we tell our
> stories."
> -Laurie Anderson
>
> "Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the
> error of defining it."
> -Hannah Arendt
>
> "To define is to kill. To suggest is to create."
> -Stéphane Mallarmé
> ~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
>
> On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 3:52 PM, Whitney Lawrence
> <whitneyel3 at gmail.com <mailto:whitneyel3 at gmail.com>>
> wrote:
>
> I get off work early tomorrow and can pick up the
> slack. The package will be mailed on Friday the
> 7th, unless otherwise instructed. Accordingly, be
> advised if the role you were assigned is not
> fulfilled in a timely manner then that section
> will be blank and will likely result in a
> rejection of our application- no pressure. Please
> make every effort to complete your tasks by
> tomorrow by 4pm, I will be compiling the document
> with Vicky and Jenny around that time (I'll get
> off work around then).
>
> As of now this is the status of everything to my
> knowledge (I welcome corrections):
>
> ACTION ITEMS:
>
> --Edit Questions 8
> -Matt https://pad.riseup.net/p/sudostatetaxes
> --Review part VI No. 1&3-
> Matt https://pad.riseup.net/p/sudostatetaxes
> --Review bylaws and make edits where necessary.
> Modifications will not be content related. -Whit
> --Review edited bylaws- Whit will send revised
> version to Matt and he can upload them to the wiki
> where everyone can look them over.
> --Print part IV- Whit (this is address etc.
> information of the BOD. I will not be uploading
> this to any wiki/drive/riseup for privacy reasons)
> --Maintain possession of relevant documents - Vicky
> -------- Form - 3500 working copy
> -------- Rental and lease agreement
> -------- Articles of Inc.
> -------- Check for $25
> -------- Bank Statements
> -------- Bylaws (awaiting action by Whit)
> -------- Letter from FTB non tax exempt status letter
> --Compile package - Vicky & Whit
> --Copy Edit/Review - Jenny (EVERYTHING WE ATTACH
> MUST INCLUDE ORG NAME AND STATE ID NUMBER C3617428)
>
> Known Possible Problems:
> There was not consensus as to the existence of
> SI-100 nor CT-1 forms which we should have filled
> out and submitted previously. If anyone knows
> where they might be or can obtain a copy please
> let me know ASAP. If they don't show up then they
> wont be in our submission.
> Copy of receipts and expenses- We are assuming
> bank statements will suffice, and that might not
> be appropriate.
>
> Please take action and/or email me corrections or
> otherwise inform me of any mistakes/omissions.
>
> You may call me at 510.396.5510 <tel:510.396.5510>
>
> -Whit
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 2:02 PM, april glaser
> <april.glaser at riseup.net
> <mailto:april.glaser at riseup.net>> wrote:
>
> HI there,
>
> I have no time to work on this for the rest of
> the week. Completely buried in stuff at work
> that's on an uncompromising and unpredictable
> timeline.
>
> Can someone else handle or bottom line
> formatting the bylaws in a way that can be
> sent and working with Vicky and Whitney to
> insert all the work we did into the form,
> checking it 100 times, and shipping it out?
>
> Thanks,
> April
>
> On 11/2/14 9:56 PM, Julio Rios wrote:
>> I probably won't be there Tuesday because
>> Diana is coming back from a long trip, but
>> let me know if there are outstanding issues I
>> can help with in the meantime.
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 9:39 PM,
>> <hol at gaskill.com <mailto:hol at gaskill.com>> wrote:
>>
>> i'll be there tues to plan for the space
>> hackathon and can drop in. thanks april
>> for leading the charge!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2014-11-02 19:54, april glaser wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks all! Totally inspiring to see
>>> everyone jumping in here.
>>>
>>> Good to know I don't have to review the
>>> articles of association, and in that
>>> case, I'm going to start going over and
>>> formatting the bylaws and articles of
>>> incorporation to include in our submission.
>>>
>>> It now looks like every little
>>> responsibility has been bottom lined.
>>>
>>> *I propose that those who can, meet on
>>> Tuesday at 7 at Sudoroom to collect what
>>> we have so far and whip up a near-final
>>> draft. Vicky, Whit and I can make it. If
>>> you can't please send along whatever
>>> part you worked on* so we can compile
>>> things and compliment you behind your back.
>>>
>>> a.
>>>
>>> On 11/2/14 7:31 PM, Maximilian Klein wrote:
>>>> Whit, sending you my address now privately.
>>>> April et al, this is the filled out
>>>> financials with bank statements attached.
>>>>
>>>> Make a great day,
>>>> Max Klein ‽ http://notconfusing.com/
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 7:09 PM, Jenny
>>>> Ryan <tunabananas at gmail.com
>>>> <mailto:tunabananas at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Whit, do you need help getting all
>>>> names and addresses of the Board
>>>> members?
>>>>
>>>> Anca M
>>>> <https://sudoroom.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=User:Anca&action=edit&redlink=1>,
>>>> Hol G
>>>> <https://sudoroom.org/wiki/User:Hol>,
>>>> Jenny R
>>>> <https://sudoroom.org/wiki/User:Tunabananas>,
>>>> Julio R, Liberty M, Marc J
>>>> <https://sudoroom.org/wiki/User:Juul>
>>>> [treasurer], Marina K
>>>> <https://sudoroom.org/wiki/User:Mk30>,
>>>> Matt S
>>>> <https://sudoroom.org/wiki/User:Matt>,
>>>> Max K
>>>> <https://sudoroom.org/wiki/User:Maximilianklein>,
>>>> Naomi M, Romy I, Troy M, Vicky K
>>>> <https://sudoroom.org/wiki/User:YkciV>.
>>>>
>>>> I know the addresses of 6 outta 13:
>>>> Jenny, Liberty, Marc, Marina, Matt,
>>>> and Vicky. Will send to you in a pm.
>>>>
>>>> Jenny
>>>> http://jennyryan.net
>>>> <http://jennyryan.net/>
>>>> http://thepyre.org
>>>> <http://thepyre.org/>
>>>> http://thevirtualcampfire.org
>>>> <http://thevirtualcampfire.org/>
>>>> http://technomadic.tumblr.com
>>>> <http://technomadic.tumblr.com/>
>>>>
>>>> `~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
>>>> "Technology is the campfire around
>>>> which we tell our stories."
>>>> -Laurie Anderson
>>>>
>>>> "Storytelling reveals meaning
>>>> without committing the error of
>>>> defining it."
>>>> -Hannah Arendt
>>>>
>>>> "To define is to kill. To suggest
>>>> is to create."
>>>> -Stéphane Mallarmé
>>>> ~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
>>>> On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 6:32 PM,
>>>> Maximilian Klein <isalix at gmail.com
>>>> <mailto:isalix at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Yes, I am bottom lining Part
>>>> III Side 4
>>>>
>>>> Make a great day,
>>>> Max Klein ‽
>>>> http://notconfusing.com/
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 6:08 PM,
>>>> Jenny Ryan
>>>> <tunabananas at gmail.com
>>>> <mailto:tunabananas at gmail.com>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Attached is a copy of sudo
>>>> room's lease from 2141
>>>> Broadway, but it's unsigned.
>>>>
>>>> Matt, do you have a signed
>>>> copy?
>>>>
>>>> Jenny
>>>> http://jennyryan.net
>>>> <http://jennyryan.net/>
>>>> http://thepyre.org
>>>> <http://thepyre.org/>
>>>> http://thevirtualcampfire.org
>>>> <http://thevirtualcampfire.org/>
>>>> http://technomadic.tumblr.com
>>>> <http://technomadic.tumblr.com/>
>>>>
>>>> `~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
>>>> "Technology is the campfire
>>>> around which we tell our
>>>> stories."
>>>> -Laurie Anderson
>>>>
>>>> "Storytelling reveals
>>>> meaning without committing
>>>> the error of defining it."
>>>> -Hannah Arendt
>>>>
>>>> "To define is to kill. To
>>>> suggest is to create."
>>>> -Stéphane Mallarmé
>>>> ~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
>>>> On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 5:58
>>>> PM, Julio Rios
>>>> <julio.rios at gmail.com
>>>> <mailto:julio.rios at gmail.com>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Thanks Jenny. I think
>>>> we needed the 2013
>>>> lease agreement.
>>>>
>>>> On Nov 2, 2014 5:40 PM,
>>>> "Jenny Ryan"
>>>> <tunabananas at gmail.com
>>>> <mailto:tunabananas at gmail.com>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I can fill out the
>>>> parts about
>>>> fundraising,
>>>> procure a copy of
>>>> the (Current?)
>>>> lease, and
>>>> proofread the final.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks so much to
>>>> all who are helping
>>>> with this!! <3
>>>>
>>>> Jenny
>>>> http://jennyryan.net <http://jennyryan.net/>
>>>> http://thepyre.org
>>>> <http://thepyre.org/>
>>>> http://thevirtualcampfire.org
>>>> <http://thevirtualcampfire.org/>
>>>> http://technomadic.tumblr.com
>>>> <http://technomadic.tumblr.com/>
>>>>
>>>> `~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
>>>> "Technology is the
>>>> campfire around
>>>> which we tell our
>>>> stories."
>>>> -Laurie Anderson
>>>>
>>>> "Storytelling
>>>> reveals meaning
>>>> without committing
>>>> the error of
>>>> defining it."
>>>> -Hannah Arendt
>>>>
>>>> "To define is to
>>>> kill. To suggest is
>>>> to create."
>>>> -Stéphane Mallarmé
>>>> ~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Nov 2, 2014
>>>> at 4:19 PM,
>>>> <hol at gaskill.com
>>>> <mailto:hol at gaskill.com>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >Yes, I agree. We need not, and should not, submit our Articles of
>>>> Association to the state. The 3500 refers to articles of
>>>> incorporation.
>>>>
>>>> This has been the plan whenever we've discussed it. The articles of /association/ are for our use and are intended to be updated freely without any legal weight, just the weight of our belief in the system we are creating.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 2014-11-02
>>>> 10:24, yar wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 9:42 AM, Julio Rios <julio.rios at gmail.com <mailto:julio.rios at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> In
>>>> theory,
>>>> since
>>>> the
>>>> Articles of
>>>> Association
>>>> can
>>>> change,
>>>> and
>>>> they
>>>> are
>>>> actually what
>>>> govern
>>>> sudo
>>>> room,
>>>> so it
>>>> may be
>>>> better
>>>> not to
>>>> submit
>>>> them.... Although
>>>> the
>>>> latest
>>>> version
>>>> should
>>>> be on
>>>> the
>>>> wiki, I
>>>> don't
>>>> think
>>>> this is
>>>> relevant for
>>>> the
>>>> state
>>>> and
>>>> federal
>>>> paperwork.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, I agree. We need not, and should not, submit our Articles of
>>>> Association to the state. The 3500 refers to articles of
>>>> incorporation. Most organizations don't have "articles of
>>>> association". It's just a weird anarchist thing that we did over a
>>>> year before we became any sort of legal entity. :)
>>>>
>>>> If it
>>>> hasn't
>>>> happened already,
>>>> we
>>>> should
>>>> also
>>>> gain
>>>> consensus
>>>> on the
>>>> bylaws
>>>> and
>>>> articles [of
>>>> incorporation]
>>>> before
>>>> submitting
>>>> them. I
>>>> believe
>>>> Yar
>>>> said we
>>>> never
>>>> submitted
>>>> the
>>>> bylaws
>>>> because
>>>> we
>>>> never
>>>> gained
>>>> consensus.
>>>> Is
>>>> there
>>>> an
>>>> expedited
>>>> process
>>>> for
>>>> getting
>>>> a
>>>> decision on
>>>> this?
>>>> In
>>>> theory,
>>>> this is
>>>> due on
>>>> Nov 7,
>>>> although I've
>>>> heard
>>>> the
>>>> penalties
>>>> for
>>>> delay
>>>> are not
>>>> severe.
>>>>
>>>> Consensus
>>>> was never
>>>> really the
>>>> issue.
>>>> Laziness
>>>> was the
>>>> issue.
>>>> There were
>>>> a number of
>>>> Sudoroom
>>>> meetings
>>>> last year
>>>> where
>>>> consensus
>>>> was clear
>>>> about the
>>>> direction
>>>> we wanted
>>>> to go, but
>>>> it was just
>>>> never
>>>> implemented. If
>>>> we can have
>>>> something
>>>> ready to
>>>> read on
>>>> Wednesday
>>>> and mail on
>>>> Thursday,
>>>> that's
>>>> icing on
>>>> the cake,
>>>> but I say
>>>> just do
>>>> what we
>>>> need to do
>>>> for now,
>>>> including
>>>> mailing it
>>>> before
>>>> Wednesday
>>>> if need be.
>>>> From what I
>>>> understand,
>>>> we'll have
>>>> the chance
>>>> to change
>>>> things
>>>> again when
>>>> we do 501c3
>>>> so it's
>>>> just an
>>>> interim
>>>> document.
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