[sudo-discuss] [sudo-board] URGENT: help finish state taxes

Julio Rios julio.rios at gmail.com
Sun Nov 2 17:58:29 PST 2014


Thanks Jenny. I think we needed the 2013 lease agreement.
On Nov 2, 2014 5:40 PM, "Jenny Ryan" <tunabananas at gmail.com> wrote:

> I can fill out the parts about fundraising, procure a copy of the
> (Current?) lease, and proofread the final.
>
> Thanks so much to all who are helping with this!! <3
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> On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 4:19 PM, <hol at gaskill.com> wrote:
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>>  >Yes, I agree. We need not, and should not, submit our Articles of
>> Association to the state. The 3500 refers to articles of
>> incorporation.
>>
>> This has been the plan whenever we've discussed it.  The articles of *association* are for our use and are intended to be updated freely without any legal weight, just the weight of our belief in the system we are creating.
>>
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>> On 2014-11-02 10:24, yar wrote:
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>> On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 9:42 AM, Julio Rios <julio.rios at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> In theory, since the Articles of Association can change, and they are
>> actually what govern sudo room, so it may be better not to submit them....
>> Although the latest version should be on the wiki, I don't think this is
>> relevant for the state and federal paperwork.
>>
>> Yes, I agree. We need not, and should not, submit our Articles of
>> Association to the state. The 3500 refers to articles of
>> incorporation. Most organizations don't have "articles of
>> association". It's just a weird anarchist thing that we did over a
>> year before we became any sort of legal entity. :)
>>
>> If it hasn't happened already, we should also gain consensus on the
>> bylaws and articles [of incorporation] before submitting them. I believe
>> Yar said we never submitted the bylaws because we never gained consensus.
>> Is there an expedited process for getting a decision on this? In theory,
>> this is due on Nov 7, although I've heard the penalties for delay are not
>> severe.
>>
>> Consensus was never really the issue. Laziness was the issue. There
>> were a number of Sudoroom meetings last year where consensus was clear
>> about the direction we wanted to go, but it was just never
>> implemented. If we can have something ready to read on Wednesday and
>> mail on Thursday, that's icing on the cake, but I say just do what we
>> need to do for now, including mailing it before Wednesday if need be.
>> From what I understand, we'll have the chance to change things again
>> when we do 501c3 so it's just an interim document.
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