[sudo-discuss] Elevator Upgrade

[David Keenan]

well, whatever we decide, lets definitely get it in writing first, AND ask
how much the other tenants in this floor are paying.

-D

On Tuesday, January 7, 2014, Jenny Ryan wrote:

> With no response - if you see George this afternoon could you try asking
> in-person? I'll press Laurie on it.
>
> Solidarity!
> /jnny
> On Jan 7, 2014 12:16 PM, "Matthew Senate" <mattsenate at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Apparently Jenny did send such a request to George and we await a reply.
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 7, 2014 at 12:10 PM, Matthew Senate <mattsenate at gmail.com>wrote:
>
> David,
>
> Hmm, we definitely got the increase, I expected ya'll would too, but do
> not know. It is in our contract and is not very much (~inflation) so in my
> opinion no harm no foul.
>
> Chris,
>
> I understand where everyone is coming from. I just don't have much faith
> in line-drawing at this point. Believe me, I am generally an incredibly
> principled person--almost to a fault. However, in this instance, I would
> rather practice caution and savvy over a confrontation given all the energy
> I and others have spent to smooth over our current relations.
>
> For instance, whenever I can, I clean the elevator and bathrooms, as well
> as take out all the trash. I am constantly addressing folks about their use
> of the common space (usually to inform them that something indeed,
> surprisingly, yes, must be cleaned and not left messy, especially because
> this space is common to other folks and tenants), ensuring it stays closer
> to the landlords' standards (which it barely barely does some of the time).
> I clean the kitchenette including others' dishes, vacuum, remove
> unnecessary furniture items, move materials back into sudo room,  and
> others do similar things as well. This is an investment in the very basic
> agreement that the main space remain common, shared with others, that
> ultimately builds report and trust with the landlords.
>
> So, from my point of view, I see this situation as "Do we want the
> elevator fixed or not?" and essentially I lean more toward negotiate and
> get it fixed. Otherwise, I think we'd expect a much longer, more
> complicated affair with little resolution.
>
> That's just my opinion **shrugs**
>
> This is consistent with asking for a written notice e.g.:  "George, can
> you send us a written notice over email about the elevator, including a
> quote and what you need from the sudo room?" then talk about our options.
>
> // Matt
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 7, 2014 at 10:36 AM, David Keenan <dkeenan44 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Melissa tells me BAPS did not in fact get a rent increase.
>
> Matt, can you confirm this is also true on your end?
>
>
> On Monday, January 6, 2014, Chris Bee wrote:
>
> Well, sure, we all want a safer elevator...but at the expense of George
> running roughshod over any semblance of normal landlord/tenant relations?
>
> If the bargaining chip involved George voluntarily attending anger
> management classes and acting on the concerns of his tenants in the future
> in a responsible and rational manner, I'd probably give it a pass....but
> whenever someone lets him get away with shady/illogical shit, in my mind
> it's the same as tacit approval.
>
> I don't want to troll or be the devil's advocate but I agree with yar...if
> he wants it that bad, let's put it in writing then take it from there.
>
> -chrisbee
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 6:26 PM, Matthew Senate <mattsenate at gmail.com>wrote:
>
> That being said, I appreciate taking William's assessment into
> consideration, especially given he is also a tenant.
>
> Further, thinking tactically, do we want the elevator to be safer and
> break down less regularly? Perhaps we could negotiate. This is an option.
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 2:24 PM, Hol Gaskill <hol at gaskill.com> wrote:
>
> I think this has
>
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