[sudo-discuss] Fwd: Lease

Jeremy Entwistle jwentwistle at cryptolab.net
Fri Apr 18 00:03:16 PDT 2014


No.

Unless there's something in the lease that currently prevents us from 
eating in the common room, or until we decide through consensus to 
regulate food from being there, then there's nothing preventing you from 
feeding us. I suggest delivering all the delicious food to sudo room 
rather than the common room and leave it up to individuals to do what 
they do.

And thank you to everybody that has brought food in the past!
All of you deserve a million hugs!

On 2014-04-17 23:09, Gabrielle Silverman wrote:
> Re: Landlord's objections to food in common room, I wonder about
> thoughts from others in the group. Should Sudo abide, ignore, delay,
> negotiate...? I am one of several people who bring large quantities of
> salvaged food to Sudo. Should it stop?
> 
> Gabby
> On Apr 18, 2014 12:34 AM, "Matthew Senate" <mattsenate at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> Hey all,
>> 
>> I did not see this message in my inbox until now, apologies for the
>> delay:
>> 
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: LAURIE COOPERMAN ROSEN <Lscoop at comcast.net>
>> Date: Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 1:46 PM
>> Subject: Lease
>> To: Matthew Senate <mattsenate at gmail.com>
>> Cc: Eddan Katz <eddan at eddan.com>, George <travology at mindspring.com>
>> 
>> Hi Matt-
>> 
>> I haven’t completed the lease—originally I was just waiting for
>> your address so I can print it out but after spending some time
>> there this week (George hurt his arm—you might have heard about
>> that story), we will need to add some additional clauses to the
>> lease before printing it out.
>> 
>> Often when I walk in there—and worst of all yesterday, right after
>> George de-bugged the place—I was shocked to find huge trays of
>> food (enough to feed probably 30 people!) just laying out there in
>> the warm air, clearly stale.  This is totally inappropriate—and
>> gross!  The common area was set up to be a place where people could
>> have meetings, occasional special gatherings and possibly an
>> additional receptionist desk for each of the businesses there.  It
>> is clear that while it is being used in its current manner that
>> there will be no possibility of us being able to attract other
>> tenants into that space to share it with you, and we can’t afford
>> to get only what you and the public school are paying for the space
>> without any ability to rent out more.  We know that people are
>> still sleeping there—often they wake up in the middle of the night
>> and walk out the front door, because clearly they don’t know the
>> rules and they violate the code and we are getting called (of
>> course, these are folks who don’t belong there and shouldn’t
>> have codes….they should just not have been there in the first
>> place!).  We don’t even know whether the people sleeping there
>> are your members or not, but the fact that there is nobody to shut
>> up the space at night and kick out the stragglers still in there is
>> clearly a big problem and we are losing more and more sleep because
>> of it.  This will need to change.  We will either need to put a
>> curfew on the use of the common area space except in the case of
>> special events, or require that somebody in authority come once at
>> the end of the evening and shut the place up and make sure that
>> everybody is out of there, doors locked, and the elevator shut on
>> the top floor so that others (including those in 2141 corridor that
>> seem to gravitate there) won’t have access to it.  Even with your
>> insurance, the liability issues are getting greater all the time
>> based on the problem of the space being kept open and people who
>> shouldn’t be in there hanging around throughout the night..
>> 
>> We are going to have to make clear in the lease, once and for all,
>> that the common area is NOT a living room!  It is not a place to
>> put out food unless a special event is going on. 
>> 
>> A point was made to George about giving 24 hour notice before
>> spraying again, and I will try to have him adhere to that in the
>> future, but the point is that he shouldn’t HAVE to be doing that
>> to begin with!
>> 
>> Matt, you have always been quite reasonable and easy to deal with,
>> but you have a life and can’t be there 24 hours a day, so we’ll
>> have to put our heads together and come up with some additional
>> solutions to make things work for everybody up there.
>> 
>> Please let me know how you feel about this, and what steps we can
>> take to move forward.
>> 
>> Thanks-
>> 
>> Laurie
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