[sudo-discuss] Fwd: The Omni

Gregg Horton greggahorton at gmail.com
Sun Sep 29 23:00:30 PDT 2013


I feel most of us are oaklanders, i would go to sudo less if it was in 
temescal for sure.


On Sun Sep 29 21:19:13 2013, Rabbit wrote:
> It's in Temescal, a 30 minute walk from AMT.  The Berkeley border is
> farther north up between Ashby and Alcatraz.
>
> Has anyone ever done a geographic survey of where Sudoers live and how
> much time they're willing to spend on BART getting to Sudo?  I'm in
> Berkeley but it seems like most people are closer to downtown Oakland.
>
>
>
> On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 9:01 PM, Tracy Jacobs <kinetical at comcast.net
> <mailto:kinetical at comcast.net>> wrote:
>
>     You do realize that's very close to Ace Monster Toys?  If Sudo
>     room moves up to the Berkeley Border, it would make sense to join
>     with Ace Monster Toys.  Also, in my opinion that is way too far
>     from Bart, and way too far from where I live, so I would probably
>     not ever go there.
>
>     Sounds like an interesting space though, and that is a better
>     neighborhood than where AMT is now.  Maybe they would be
>     interested in this space?
>
>     Tracy
>
>     On Sep 29, 2013, at 8:41 PM, Rabbit <rabbitface at gmail.com
>     <mailto:rabbitface at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>>     My thoughts:
>>
>>     The various spaces are huge and awesome.  The workshop space will
>>     be subdivided up so there's the possibility of building a fun
>>     2-level structure / castle / tactile dome for ourselves if we end
>>     up deciding to move there.
>>
>>     Sounds like there will be a variety of interesting things
>>     happening in the building: art shows, performances, music,
>>     various groups meeting, skillshares, yoga and dance classes, etc.
>>
>>     The project seems just about ready to start absorbing more
>>     people.  They have 6 "core" people and are looking for more
>>     residents and collaborators.  They expect 10-12 people to live
>>     there for $800/mo.  It's right by the freeway and has no outdoor
>>     space.
>>
>>     We weren't able to photograph the upstairs area which is a funky
>>     maze of spaces which are / will become bedrooms that overlook the
>>     larger public spaces.  Also there's a hot tub.
>>
>>     They said they were going to prioritize the residents' feeling of
>>     "home" over having loud shows every night.  I expect that to be a
>>     point of contention -- that huge empty space is crying out to be
>>     used for things.
>>
>>     If Sudo Room moved there we'd have to figure out our special
>>     access needs (24 hour access, etc) and how that coexists with the
>>     other people and events using the space and their security needs.
>>      Maybe there's a side door we could use.
>>
>>     Also there's roof access so Sudo Mesh can probably place a node
>>     up there regardless of what else happens.  I bet the Omni people
>>     will support that.
>>
>>     I haven't tried the 10 minute walk northward from MacArthur BART
>>     so I'm not sure if it's too far or not.  The location is a block
>>     behind East Bay Depot for Creative Reuse near where Shattuck hits
>>     Telegraph.
>>
>>     -Rabbit
>>
>>
>>
>>     On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 5:05 PM, Marina Kukso
>>     <marina.kukso at gmail.com <mailto:marina.kukso at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>         hey all,
>>
>>         max, rabbit, and i ended up being at the omni at the same
>>         time yesterday. what is the omni? read more below!
>>
>>         ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>         From: *Max Klein* <isalix at gmail.com <mailto:isalix at gmail.com>>
>>         Date: Sat, Sep 28, 2013 at 7:39 PM
>>         Subject: The Omni
>>         To: "marina.kukso" <marina.kukso at gmail.com
>>         <mailto:marina.kukso at gmail.com>>, Rabbit Whiskers
>>         <rabbitface at gmail.com <mailto:rabbitface at gmail.com>>
>>
>>
>>         ==What is the Omni==
>>         *4799 Shattuck Avenue
>>         *Officially zoned as a house
>>         *Complex with many rooms and their loose plans for them
>>         **Ballroom hall - Yoga and other type of classes
>>         **A Bar/Restaurant Room - A "transactional cafe"
>>         **A workshop type area - artist subdivisions in half, maybe a
>>         hackerspace.
>>         **Bedroom type area - Where they will live
>>         ***A Basement - Coworking area, a film studio, and a VR Lab
>>         with omni-treadmills
>>         **A  Commercial Kitchen - foodtrepreneurs-space
>>
>>         ==Who are the Omni==
>>         *Six core people
>>         **Hippie/Burner/20-30something
>>         **Ben Olmstead (sp?) ("chief architect") we met with him
>>         *Leasing to Buy
>>         **Total price $2m
>>
>>         ==Sudo Room at the Omni==
>>         *There is place that is good for a hackspace
>>         *[insert picture here] ====>>>>>
>>         http://oaklandwiki.org/The_Omni <http://oaklandwiki.org/The_Omni>
>>         *They want to make 10 artist cubicles 10'x10' and charge $4/sqft.
>>         *Half the room will still be avavilable, and could be Sudo's
>>         for approx $2k/month.
>>         **They want to make $8k/month from the artist spaces +
>>         workshop + coworking + movie studio + VRLAB + kitchen, so any
>>         combination works for them. We can offer creative solutions.
>>         For instance I suggested:
>>         *Pay upfront for a year could be cheaper, because they would
>>         have a larger downpayment on their loan. They accepted.
>>         *It is 10 minutes walk from McArthur BART
>>         **Is that too far?
>>
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