[sudo-discuss] Stop with the race baiting immediately

[Jenny Ryan]

Some clarification:

The new location has been completely neglected for the past 15 years, and
we were intentionally invited by the folks behind Creative Development
Partners <http://creativedevelopmentpartners.com> as the kind of
community-oriented maker/project space they're hoping to see thrive in this
neighborhood.

Jenny
http://jennyryan.net
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On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 12:12 PM, Andrew <andrew at roshambomedia.com> wrote:

> I totally agree with batkid. As a black person who has contributed
> directly to the gentrification of west oakland I'd like to say that
> gentrification is an issue that can not be reduced to race, social status,
> industry, etc. I would encourage people to think critically about how their
> actions affect the communities they live in, but not to get caught up in
> liberal guilt land unless you plan on taking some kind of direct action.
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 12:02 PM, Craig Rouskey <craigrouskey at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Huh? I thought the new location was unoccupied?
>> —
>> Craig J. Rouskey
>> contact at craigrouskey.com
>> http://www.craigrouskey.com
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 11:59 AM, The Batkid <batkid at gmx.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I don't understand the strange self flagellating threads about
>>> gentrifying people out of Oakland while searching for a space.
>>> It's not productive and I truly do not understand what the end goal is
>>> here.  We're not going to solve racism in the bay area
>>> with the mailing list.
>>>
>>> It's ok to displace the Chinese, but not blacks?  WTF?
>>>
>>>
>>> Incentives applicable at this location:
>>>
>>>    - The City of Oakland is offering business license and sales tax
>>>    abatement as incentives
>>>    - The State of California's manufacturing equipment sale and use tax
>>>    exemptions
>>>    - The State of California's California Competes income tax credit
>>>    - The State of California's New Employment Credit
>>>    - No African Americans would be displaced, only Chinese
>>>
>>>
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