[sudo-discuss] hoping for more transparency and inclusiveness around all the exciting developments

Wed Nov 13 16:13:08 PST 2013

Thanks for the pointer. I didn't think to identify "SOEX" and Warhol
foundation so I missed this.
Though I mentioned the grant, all I'm really asking about now is the effort
around a new space.

On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 3:59 PM, Matthew Senate <mattsenate at gmail.com>wrote:

> http://lists.sudoroom.org/pipermail/sudo-discuss/2013-September/003690.html
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 3:55 PM, Anthony Di Franco <di.franco at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Let me agree right with you with Craig - I'm just seeking clarity on
>> where we are and where we're headed in this process by which I don't at all
>> want to discourage anyone from doing awesome things on behalf of the group
>> and I'm also quite grateful to those who have done and are doing that work.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 3:44 PM, Hol Gaskill <hol at gaskill.com> wrote:
>>
>>> there was a presentation on it a few weeks ago at the meeting -
>>> everybody seemed into at least continuing to investigate, with some concern
>>> over not being able to serve the same geographical area.  generally agree
>>> with craig - huge thanks to people do-ocratically advancing the frontiers.
>>>
>>>
>>> Nov 13, 2013 03:22:58 PM, di.franco at gmail.com wrote:
>>> Thanks for the clarification and for the hard work on making things
>>> happen. I'll watch the list for updates in preference to getting
>>> information on the side.
>>> >
>>>
>>> My remaining question now is whether any financial commitments will need
>>> to be made to hold the space, even if the planned actions are not binding
>>> sudo room to move in? And what generally are the planned actions?
>>> >
>>>
>>> I respect the desire not to get scooped on a good deal but I hope we
>>> will weigh this concern wisely against the need to keep decision making
>>> participatory, and it seems at minimum the basic, broad intentions of those
>>> undertaking negotiations on the group's behalf and what roughly is at stake
>>> should be known to the group.
>>> >
>>>
>>> As you may know, we are also searching for a space for Counter Culture
>>> Labs, and in that case the board explicitly empowered a member to form and
>>> lead a committee to pursue options, negotiate on behalf of the group, and
>>> report back regularly and in a timely way on progress, options, and
>>> decisions made or to be made. I have that example in mind as an example of
>>> a transparent process that still lets good, urgent opportunities be seized.
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>> >
>>> >On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 12:38 PM, Jenny Ryan tunabananas at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>> >Hi Anthony,
>>> >
>>> >I totally hear you, sympathize, and hope to clear some things up.
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>> >The grant opportunity came up one night at sudo less than 24 hours
>>> before the deadline. In retrospect I should have posted a callout for help
>>> to the list, and I'll be sure to do that in the future. Rather, I simply
>>> reached out to this in my immediate vicinity (Marc, Matt and Marina). It
>>> would be great if folks could add to the wiki page I started at
>>> https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Funding and take the lead on initiating
>>> applications for other grants.
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> >The Omni space proposal was also a very rushed, tight opportunity to
>>> secure the space with a deposit (not directly associated with sudo, and
>>> this does not bind sudo room to the space), and while we discussed this at
>>> general meetings (of Sudo, Public School and Counter Culture Labs), we
>>> didn't want to publish to the highly-populated mailing list out of fear
>>> that someone less than aligned would scoop us on the deal.
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> >It's been less than two weeks since that opportunity arose, and we're
>>> negotiating a way to hold the space. There will be public information
>>> available in the next week, or you could email me off-list and I can share
>>> more. We'll also be meeting about it on Thursday with the Public School
>>> folks (it was they who scheduled the meeting, which I only just learned of
>>> a few hours ago)
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> >I've also been extremely busy and have neglected to post meeting
>>> minutes after the meeting. I will do my best to get regular about that
>>> again (though I cannot make tonight's meeting). Of course, anyone else
>>> attending the meetings can also do this.
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> >Thanks for your honesty and the reminder to be ever-more-diligent in
>>> our transparency and inclusivity practices!
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >Jenny
>>> >
>>> http://jennyryan.net
>>> >
>>> http://thepyre.org
>>> >
>>> http://thevirtualcampfire.org
>>> >
>>> http://technomadic.tumblr.com
>>> >
>>>
>>> >
>>> `~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
>>> >
>>>
>>> "Technology is the campfire around which we tell our stories."
>>> >
>>> -Laurie Anderson
>>> >
>>>
>>> >
>>> "Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of defining
>>> it."
>>> >
>>>  -Hannah Arendt
>>> >
>>>
>>> >
>>> "To define is to kill. To suggest is to create."
>>> >
>>> -Stéphane Mallarmé
>>> >
>>> ~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
>>>
>>>
>>> >
>>> >On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 11:45 AM, Anthony Di Franco di.franco at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>> >
>>>
>>> I've been very busy and haven't made the time to come by sudo room for
>>> quite a while but I did last night and it was great to see familiar faces
>>> again. I'm also looking forward to meeting the people I've only seen on the
>>> list so far, and to congratulating people in person on all their hard work
>>> in keeping sudo room moving forward! And to being able to participate more
>>> in person in the future.
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> >I've been feeling out of touch with what's going on, especially after
>>> the drafting of the successful grant proposal. I tried searching my list
>>> archives to see if I missed anything about organizing this and it seems I
>>> didn't.  Grant writing is something I want to learn more about and I would
>>> have liked to participate in the process and I would have made the time to
>>> if I had known about it. I'm still looking forward to Vicky's idea for a
>>> grant database and to contributing to that however I can.
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> >I have a conflict that prevents me from coming to the Wednesday
>>> meetings and my schedule is very tight otherwise, so I've been following
>>> the list and looking at the meeting minutes diligently to try to stay
>>> engaged. Despite that I've been unable to gather a clear sense of what's
>>> going on, and lately (not since early September according to my seach) I
>>> haven't seen the minutes appear on the list at all except for last week. I
>>> still won't be able to make it this evening, so I hope there will be
>>> minutes to read that the whole community is informed of.
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> >When I stopped in last night I learned in vague terms that there is an
>>> important meeting about securing a new space at the Omni happening on
>>> Thursday evening. If this is true, can anyone who is involved in that
>>> inform the community via the list about what is going on, and defer a final
>>> decision until there's broad consensus? The last I see about it from
>>> searching the list is from October 1st.
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> >While I appreciate the initiative and effort on the part of people
>>> moving this forward, (though I'm not sure who they might be,) I want to
>>> make sure that whatever decisions made that affect the whole community are
>>> still based on informed, explicit consensus by the whole community, which
>>> is fundamental to how sudo room works.
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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