[sudo-discuss] hoping for more transparency and inclusiveness around all the exciting developments

Wed Nov 13 15:59:07 PST 2013

http://lists.sudoroom.org/pipermail/sudo-discuss/2013-September/003690.html

On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 3:55 PM, Anthony Di Franco <di.franco at gmail.com>wrote:

> Let me agree right with you with Craig - I'm just seeking clarity on where
> we are and where we're headed in this process by which I don't at all want
> to discourage anyone from doing awesome things on behalf of the group and
> I'm also quite grateful to those who have done and are doing that work.
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> On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 3:44 PM, Hol Gaskill <hol at gaskill.com> wrote:
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>> there was a presentation on it a few weeks ago at the meeting - everybody
>> seemed into at least continuing to investigate, with some concern over not
>> being able to serve the same geographical area.  generally agree with craig
>> - huge thanks to people do-ocratically advancing the frontiers.
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>> Nov 13, 2013 03:22:58 PM, di.franco at gmail.com wrote:
>> Thanks for the clarification and for the hard work on making things
>> happen. I'll watch the list for updates in preference to getting
>> information on the side.
>> >
>>
>> My remaining question now is whether any financial commitments will need
>> to be made to hold the space, even if the planned actions are not binding
>> sudo room to move in? And what generally are the planned actions?
>> >
>>
>> I respect the desire not to get scooped on a good deal but I hope we will
>> weigh this concern wisely against the need to keep decision making
>> participatory, and it seems at minimum the basic, broad intentions of those
>> undertaking negotiations on the group's behalf and what roughly is at stake
>> should be known to the group.
>> >
>>
>> As you may know, we are also searching for a space for Counter Culture
>> Labs, and in that case the board explicitly empowered a member to form and
>> lead a committee to pursue options, negotiate on behalf of the group, and
>> report back regularly and in a timely way on progress, options, and
>> decisions made or to be made. I have that example in mind as an example of
>> a transparent process that still lets good, urgent opportunities be seized.
>> >
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>> >On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 12:38 PM, Jenny Ryan tunabananas at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
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>> >Hi Anthony,
>> >
>> >I totally hear you, sympathize, and hope to clear some things up.
>> >
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>> >The grant opportunity came up one night at sudo less than 24 hours
>> before the deadline. In retrospect I should have posted a callout for help
>> to the list, and I'll be sure to do that in the future. Rather, I simply
>> reached out to this in my immediate vicinity (Marc, Matt and Marina). It
>> would be great if folks could add to the wiki page I started at
>> https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Funding and take the lead on initiating
>> applications for other grants.
>> >
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>> >The Omni space proposal was also a very rushed, tight opportunity to
>> secure the space with a deposit (not directly associated with sudo, and
>> this does not bind sudo room to the space), and while we discussed this at
>> general meetings (of Sudo, Public School and Counter Culture Labs), we
>> didn't want to publish to the highly-populated mailing list out of fear
>> that someone less than aligned would scoop us on the deal.
>> >
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>> >It's been less than two weeks since that opportunity arose, and we're
>> negotiating a way to hold the space. There will be public information
>> available in the next week, or you could email me off-list and I can share
>> more. We'll also be meeting about it on Thursday with the Public School
>> folks (it was they who scheduled the meeting, which I only just learned of
>> a few hours ago)
>> >
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>> >I've also been extremely busy and have neglected to post meeting minutes
>> after the meeting. I will do my best to get regular about that again
>> (though I cannot make tonight's meeting). Of course, anyone else attending
>> the meetings can also do this.
>> >
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>> >Thanks for your honesty and the reminder to be ever-more-diligent in our
>> transparency and inclusivity practices!
>> >
>> >
>> >Jenny
>> >
>> http://jennyryan.net
>> >
>> http://thepyre.org
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>> http://thevirtualcampfire.org
>> >
>> http://technomadic.tumblr.com
>> >
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>> `~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
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>> "Technology is the campfire around which we tell our stories."
>> >
>> -Laurie Anderson
>> >
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>> >
>> "Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of defining
>> it."
>> >
>>  -Hannah Arendt
>> >
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>> "To define is to kill. To suggest is to create."
>> >
>> -Stéphane Mallarmé
>> >
>> ~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
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>> >On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 11:45 AM, Anthony Di Franco di.franco at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
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>> I've been very busy and haven't made the time to come by sudo room for
>> quite a while but I did last night and it was great to see familiar faces
>> again. I'm also looking forward to meeting the people I've only seen on the
>> list so far, and to congratulating people in person on all their hard work
>> in keeping sudo room moving forward! And to being able to participate more
>> in person in the future.
>> >
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>> >I've been feeling out of touch with what's going on, especially after
>> the drafting of the successful grant proposal. I tried searching my list
>> archives to see if I missed anything about organizing this and it seems I
>> didn't.  Grant writing is something I want to learn more about and I would
>> have liked to participate in the process and I would have made the time to
>> if I had known about it. I'm still looking forward to Vicky's idea for a
>> grant database and to contributing to that however I can.
>> >
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>> >I have a conflict that prevents me from coming to the Wednesday meetings
>> and my schedule is very tight otherwise, so I've been following the list
>> and looking at the meeting minutes diligently to try to stay engaged.
>> Despite that I've been unable to gather a clear sense of what's going on,
>> and lately (not since early September according to my seach) I haven't seen
>> the minutes appear on the list at all except for last week. I still won't
>> be able to make it this evening, so I hope there will be minutes to read
>> that the whole community is informed of.
>> >
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>> >When I stopped in last night I learned in vague terms that there is an
>> important meeting about securing a new space at the Omni happening on
>> Thursday evening. If this is true, can anyone who is involved in that
>> inform the community via the list about what is going on, and defer a final
>> decision until there's broad consensus? The last I see about it from
>> searching the list is from October 1st.
>> >
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>> >While I appreciate the initiative and effort on the part of people
>> moving this forward, (though I'm not sure who they might be,) I want to
>> make sure that whatever decisions made that affect the whole community are
>> still based on informed, explicit consensus by the whole community, which
>> is fundamental to how sudo room works.
>> >
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