[sudo-discuss] a one-page doc on do-ocracy, and a question

[Danny Spitzberg]

Hey all,

there are a whole lotta conceptual themes in what Eddan and Matt and others
off-list have brought up that sound really right-on. Huzzah! I think these
bear repeating for the conversation about developing a board.

So, to wit, the ideas that seem relevant: a leadership-oriented board,
where they proactively take responsibility for the inclusion and enabling
of member initiative... and, doing so with accountability... and, in
alignment with commonly-held goals.

See you all tonight and maybe continue this discussion!

:Danny

On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 12:13 PM, Eddan Katz <eddan at clear.net> wrote:

> Hey Danny.
>
> Thanks for this! and not just because it's info-graphic.
> Especially alongside the Board conversation taking place, I'd be
> interested in having a more shared sense of what do-ocracy means. Not in an
> encyclopedic manner, but a clear and conspicuous outline of Sudo social
> norms.
>
> There's a lot to add to and comment on, but the major thing I've been hung
> up on recently is what a 'deliberative do-ocracy' would look like. A
> consensus decision-making and project prioritizing collaboration with
> collective goals and general accountability, that gets cool shit done.
>
> Relatedly, I think Matt H.'s compelling arguments in favor of a leadership
> oriented Board on the other thread are worth taking seriously. I differ
> slightly in thinking there's a way for the Board to initiate and steer
> general productivity as separate from consent decision-making. I most agree
> with the sentiment that If we're gonna have a Board, then let's do it right
> and leverage the opportunity to get our house in order. It is clear from
> the nominations so far that this is the criteria people implicitly have
> mind even when supposedly it was thought to have no significance.
>
> Structurally, I'm thinking in particular of the relationship between the
> European Commission in the European Union and the Council and Parliament as
> a potential model for the leadership role of the Sudo Board. The Parliament
> is the proportional democratically elected body and the Council is the
> representative nation decision-making body (analogous to our Senate). The
> Commission launches initiatives and lays out the direction of things -
> substantively having the biggest impact on how legislation is shaped, but
> cannot (or should not be able to, rather) really make any law without
> advice and consent of the other bodies.
>
>
> sent from eddan.com
>
>
> On Oct 24, 2013, at 6:34 PM, Danny Spitzberg <stationaery at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hey, Sudoers
> >
> > there's been a whole lotta talk and excitement about "do-ocracy" and,
> occasionally, adhocracy. That's rad!
> >
> > I'd like to question the notion that "do-ocracy" is the logical end of
> collective efforts. In my view, do-ocracy is a great practice and ethic
> that is best served embedded in a loaf baked with intention, care, and...
> democracy.
> >
> > To substantiate that, I'd like to share a one-page doc I composed that
> situates do-ocracy as a phase between two others, one the early "dream"
> state and the other an advanced "democracy" (so-called). While these phases
> exist on a gradient and can (and should) organically bleed into one
> another, there are important distinctions and caveats.
> >
> > I hope this sparks some constructive conversation around accountability
> and alignment within the group. Really, I do!
> >
> > warmly,
> > very warmly,
> > Danny
> >
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