[sudo-discuss] defying biology

[Eric Valor]

Hello everyone:

You can read a little more about the database here:
http://www.bio-itworld.com/2013/5/10/pro-act-bigger-better-als-database-open-mining.html

And for those interested in learning more about who I am:
http://www.friends4eric.org

On 5/11/2013 10:29 AM, Alan Post wrote:
> Hello everyone!
>
> I visited sudoroom on the weekend of Mar 16-17 2013 as part of a
> research trip on DIYbio/citizen science.  I may have met some of
> you then.  During that same weekend I drove down to visit Eric to
> specifically discuss his work and condition.  We've since then been
> slowly working through the data Ryan mentions, of roughly the sort
> of longitudinal analysis alluded to below.
>
> I'm happy to be introduced to all of you.  I have a longer
> introduction to myself at: http://c0redump.org/
>
> -Alan
>
> On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 08:30:26AM -0700, Ryan Bethencourt wrote:
>>     Hi All,
>>     We are playing on the edges of our medical knowledge with one project (all
>>     are welcome to help if interested). Eric, Alan and I have one project
>>     which is taking ALS (Lou Gerig's) patient data and we're trying to find
>>     trends in the data (perhaps hospitalization linked with certain activities
>>     or other correlations). Eric was able to get a large data set of ALS
>>     patient data and Alan's started to analyze it. This is very much just a
>>     citizen science project and you never know, it might lead to Grok'ing
>>     something new :)
>>     If you're interested, Eric (who is both an ALS patient and citizen
>>     scientist) and Alan are leading the project and our contact points for the
>>     project!
>>     All the best,
>>     Ryan
>>
>>     On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 9:39 PM, GtwoG PublicOhOne
>>     <[1]g2g-public01 at att.net> wrote:
>>
>>       YOs-
>>
>>       It would be more impressive if they had defied physics, for example by
>>       exceeding c.
>>
>>       Or if they had cross-bred the outcome of the first experiment, with a
>>       polar bear, and announced the outcome with a press release titled "Lions
>>       and Tigers and Bears, oh my!"
>>
>>       Realistically though, there is no "defying" biology any more than
>>       "defying" chemistry, physics, or maths.* What there is, is humans
>>       experimenting with biology and creating new organisms that haven't
>>       existed before.* That, in and of itself, is interesting as science and
>>       omnious* as technology.
>>
>>       Though, we should encourage the media to not use language that suggests
>>       that scientific accomplishments are in some way supernatural (by which I
>>       mean, "above or outside of nature or empirical methods").* By definition
>>       the only thing that can exist "above" nature would be a deity that can
>>       create an entire universe at will.* And any such entity is also outside
>>       the scope of empirical methods to verify or falsify, which is why
>>       science is necessarily agnostic.
>>
>>       * Omnious: accidental neologism.* I had meant to type "ominous, for both
>>       good and bad," in the sense that our newly gained powers in experimental
>>       biology hold out the hope for new cures for diseases and new weaponized
>>       germs alike.* All the way up the phylogenetic scale, to the prospect of
>>       neo-eugenics (who wouldn't want to tweak their own sperm cells or egg
>>       cells in order to have a kid who is more capable in whatever way?).
>>
>>       But a typo rendered "ominous" as "omnious," which turns out to be
>>       interesting: the root "omni" means "all," thus, something that is
>>       "omnious" has all-encompassing possibilities.* Experimental biology is
>>       in that sense an "omnious" technology.* (And a quick online search turns
>>       up nothing, so apparently I'm the first to coin that term, heh;-)
>>
>>       -G.
>>
>>       =-=-=-=
>>
>>       On 13-05-10-Fri 7:00 PM, Leonid Kozhukh wrote:
>>
>>         hybrid of a lion & a
>>         liger:*[2]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Zmch-qpBu4
>>         --
>>         len
>>         founder, ligertail
>>         [3]http://ligertail.com
>>
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>>     Ryan Bethencourt
>>
>>     Tel: (415) 794 6463
>>     [8]ryan.bethencourt at gmail.com
>>
>>     [9]www.bamh1.com
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>>     [11]www.logos-press.com/books/biotechnology_business_development.php
>>
>> References
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>>     2. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Zmch-qpBu4
>>     3. http://ligertail.com/
>>     4. mailto:sudo-discuss at lists.sudoroom.org
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>>     8. mailto:ryan.bethencourt at gmail.com
>>     9. http://www.bamh1.com/
>>    10. http://www.linkedin.com/in/bethencourt
>>    11. http://www.logos-press.com/books/biotechnology_business_development.php

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Eric N. Valor
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