[sudo-discuss] Just a reminder of how ridiculous crowd funding is
GtwoG PublicOhOne
g2g-public01 at att.net
Fri May 31 18:28:16 PDT 2013
YOs-
Since Kickstarter has time limits, seems to me the way to do this is to
put up a website with project details, and then stir up publicity
directed toward the website, before going on Kickstarter.
The skill-sets and cultural variables don't often overlap between
geekdom and promotional activity. So there's probably room for
something like a promotional agency that can take on the task of getting
the word out about projects.
Major PR agencies have extensive direct personal contact with
journalists. Journalists in certain areas (business, sci & tech,
medicine, entertainment, etc.) rely heavily on press releases from PR
agencies, for leads and stories. (For example all the news you might
have seen today about the large asteroid fly-by this afternoon, was
probably the result of NASA sending out press releases.)
-G.
On 13-05-31-Fri 5:55 PM, Steve Berl wrote:
> One important point is that kickstarter.com <http://kickstarter.com>
> is not a very good way to get your project known. There are very few
> people out there just waiting for your project to appear so they can
> contribute. You MUST aggressively market your kickstarter campaign
> using every available channel. It is up to you to get it known via all
> sorts of social networks (both online and real world), personal
> contacts, business associates, billboards, whatever you've got.
>
> I've seen several campaigns fail miserably because the folks weren't
> able to get the word out well enough.
>
> -steve
>
>
> On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 10:58 AM, Andrew <andrew at roshambomedia.com
> <mailto:andrew at roshambomedia.com>> wrote:
>
> Just to bring this back full circle. My point in posting this was
> to point out that there are people with money willing to give that
> money to you with no strings attached if you have a project and a
> funny video.
>
> Imagine what the mesh project or sudo radio could do with $10,000.
> I know that lots of money does not = great project, but i would
> encourage some of the projects out there to think in terms of what
> they want to do (dream big), instead of what they can do now by
> scraping together parts on with a non existent budget.
>
> --Andrew
>
> On May 31, 2013 9:54 AM, "Steve Berl" <steveberl at gmail.com
> <mailto:steveberl at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Is there no interest at all in hetero sheep? Don't we want to
> be inclusive of the entire community of giant sheep?
>
> ;-)
>
> steve
>
>
> On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 10:03 PM, GtwoG PublicOhOne
> <g2g-public01 at att.net <mailto:g2g-public01 at att.net>> wrote:
>
>
> Yo Andrew, you're OK and I know you're not a homophobe.
> Your statements didn't come across as homophobic _at
> all_. Mildly sarcastic yes, homophobic no. Sarcasm is
> good, no apologies needed.
>
> I've seen some pretty obnoxo bits come across these tubes,
> including nasty ad-hominems, assertions of superiority,
> category put-downs, and "I refuse to hear you" stuff.
> Most of that seems to me to be psychological
> defensiveness, heated-up by dynamics such as you pointed
> out in your article excerpt yesterday, plus the usual
> outcomes of a hybridized communications medium that's part
> conversation, part broadcast, delayed rather than
> realtime, and minus all nonverbal cues.
>
> Generally the sting wears off after a few days and then
> it's over & done with. Contrast to: imagine if every
> conversation you ever had at a pub, was preserved for
> posterity and searchable under your name. (The idea that
> this stuff needs to be indexed & searchable is more than a
> little narcissistic: to quote someone I was hanging out
> with last night, are we really so important?)
>
> Knowing the person at the other end of the wire, and being
> able to translate their writing into their spoken voice,
> makes many of those issues disappear. In my mind's ear I
> hear you telling sheep jokes. They're not bad, for sheep
> jokes;-)
>
> OK, so who's going to launch a Kickstarter to build
> another giant gay sheep?
>
> Or how'bout a couple of giant lesbian sheep? With audio
> chips & speakers, so they can say to each other,
> "Baaa-aaa-aaa, I love ewe!" and "Baa-aa-aaa, I love ewe too!"
>
> -G.
>
>
>
> On 13-05-30-Thu 9:22 PM, Andrew wrote:
>>
>> I realize that my statements may have come of as
>> homophobic. I apollogize and would be more that happy to
>> talk about it in person or otherwise directly with anyone
>> who wants to.
>>
>> On May 30, 2013 7:55 PM, "GtwoG PublicOhOne"
>> <g2g-public01 at att.net <mailto:g2g-public01 at att.net>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> I'm gay & Andrew's cool with me & has no issues with
>> gay folks generally. Just in case anyone thinks
>> otherwise (incoming drama-missile intercept launched).
>>
>> OK, so: what to do about that sheep:
>>
>> Start another kickstarter to build another gay sheep,
>> so there'll be two of them and they can go out on
>> dates together.
>>
>> -G.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 13-05-30-Thu 2:17 PM, Matthew Meier wrote:
>>> As "a gay" I think everything needs more queering :D
>>>
>>> -Wolfy
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 2:11 PM, Andrew
>>> <andrew at roshambomedia.com
>>> <mailto:andrew at roshambomedia.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> This project just made $200 in the last hour.
>>> Someone at Sudo Room really wants the Big-Ass
>>> Amazingly Awesome Homosexual Sheep to have laser
>>> eyes!
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 2:04 PM, Jehan Tremback
>>> <jehan.tremback at gmail.com
>>> <mailto:jehan.tremback at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> NO. I hate sudo room >:-|
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 1:57 PM, Max B
>>> <maxb.personal at gmail.com
>>> <mailto:maxb.personal at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hahaha yeah on second thought I'm not
>>> actually curious why you would say that.
>>> I'm happy to let it be a hole in my
>>> knowledge of the world.
>>>
>>> We can (probably?) all agree that a
>>> sudoroom crowdfunding project would be
>>> more admirable than a lot of others on
>>> kickstarter?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu 30 May 2013 01:52:50 PM PDT,
>>> Jehan Tremback wrote:
>>>
>>> Drama incoming...
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 1:44 PM, Max
>>> B <maxb.personal at gmail.com
>>> <mailto:maxb.personal at gmail.com>
>>> <mailto:maxb.personal at gmail.com
>>> <mailto:maxb.personal at gmail.com>>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> "Also Burning Man does not need
>>> queering."...
>>>
>>> what makes you say that?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu 30 May 2013 01:27:18 PM
>>> PDT, Andrew wrote:
>>>
>>> No, I think a giant sheep
>>> that you enter through the ass is
>>> way less
>>> admirable than making a
>>> crowd funded movie. I think crowd funded
>>> movies are extremely
>>> important, given what traditional
>>> funding has
>>> done to the creativity of film.
>>>
>>> Also Burning Man does not
>>> need queering.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, May 30, 2013 at
>>> 12:49 PM, Max B
>>> <maxb.personal at gmail.com
>>> <mailto:maxb.personal at gmail.com>
>>> <mailto:maxb.personal at gmail.com
>>> <mailto:maxb.personal at gmail.com>>
>>> <mailto:maxb.personal at gmail.
>>> <mailto:maxb.personal at gmail.>__com
>>>
>>>
>>> <mailto:maxb.personal at gmail.com
>>> <mailto:maxb.personal at gmail.com>>>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Eh I think that queering
>>> burningman is a much more
>>> admirable goal
>>> than, say, Zach Braff
>>> being able to produce his little pet
>>> project
>>> (with $3mil...)
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.kickstarter.com/____projects/1869987317/wish-i-____was-here-1
>>>
>>> <http://www.kickstarter.com/__projects/1869987317/wish-i-__was-here-1>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> <http://www.kickstarter.com/__projects/1869987317/wish-i-__was-here-1
>>>
>>> <http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1869987317/wish-i-was-here-1>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu 30 May 2013
>>> 12:38:50 PM PDT, Andrew wrote:
>>>
>>> These people got
>>> over $10,000 to build a giant gay
>>> sheep for
>>> Burning Man
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.kickstarter.com/____projects/391007482/baaahs-big-____ass-amazingly-awesome-____homosexual-sheep
>>>
>>> <http://www.kickstarter.com/__projects/391007482/baaahs-big-__ass-amazingly-awesome-__homosexual-sheep>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> <http://www.kickstarter.com/__projects/391007482/baaahs-big-__ass-amazingly-awesome-__homosexual-sheep
>>>
>>> <http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/391007482/baaahs-big-ass-amazingly-awesome-homosexual-sheep>>
>>>
>>> So, dream big
>>> Sudoers, if they can do it so can you...
>>>
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