[sudo-discuss] Just a reminder of how ridiculous crowd funding is
Steve Berl
steveberl at gmail.com
Fri May 31 09:54:09 PDT 2013
Is there no interest at all in hetero sheep? Don't we want to be inclusive
of the entire community of giant sheep?
;-)
steve
On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 10:03 PM, GtwoG PublicOhOne <g2g-public01 at att.net>wrote:
>
> Yo Andrew, you're OK and I know you're not a homophobe. Your statements
> didn't come across as homophobic _at all_. Mildly sarcastic yes,
> homophobic no. Sarcasm is good, no apologies needed.
>
> I've seen some pretty obnoxo bits come across these tubes, including nasty
> ad-hominems, assertions of superiority, category put-downs, and "I refuse
> to hear you" stuff. Most of that seems to me to be psychological
> defensiveness, heated-up by dynamics such as you pointed out in your
> article excerpt yesterday, plus the usual outcomes of a hybridized
> communications medium that's part conversation, part broadcast, delayed
> rather than realtime, and minus all nonverbal cues.
>
> Generally the sting wears off after a few days and then it's over & done
> with. Contrast to: imagine if every conversation you ever had at a pub,
> was preserved for posterity and searchable under your name. (The idea that
> this stuff needs to be indexed & searchable is more than a little
> narcissistic: to quote someone I was hanging out with last night, are we
> really so important?)
>
> Knowing the person at the other end of the wire, and being able to
> translate their writing into their spoken voice, makes many of those issues
> disappear. In my mind's ear I hear you telling sheep jokes. They're not
> bad, for sheep jokes;-)
>
> OK, so who's going to launch a Kickstarter to build another giant gay
> sheep?
>
> Or how'bout a couple of giant lesbian sheep? With audio chips & speakers,
> so they can say to each other, "Baaa-aaa-aaa, I love ewe!" and "Baa-aa-aaa,
> I love ewe too!"
>
> -G.
>
>
>
> On 13-05-30-Thu 9:22 PM, Andrew wrote:
>
> I realize that my statements may have come of as homophobic. I apollogize
> and would be more that happy to talk about it in person or otherwise
> directly with anyone who wants to.
> On May 30, 2013 7:55 PM, "GtwoG PublicOhOne" <g2g-public01 at att.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> I'm gay & Andrew's cool with me & has no issues with gay folks
>> generally. Just in case anyone thinks otherwise (incoming drama-missile
>> intercept launched).
>>
>> OK, so: what to do about that sheep:
>>
>> Start another kickstarter to build another gay sheep, so there'll be two
>> of them and they can go out on dates together.
>>
>> -G.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 13-05-30-Thu 2:17 PM, Matthew Meier wrote:
>>
>> As "a gay" I think everything needs more queering :D
>>
>> -Wolfy
>>
>>
>> On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 2:11 PM, Andrew <andrew at roshambomedia.com> wrote:
>>
>>> This project just made $200 in the last hour. Someone at Sudo Room
>>> really wants the Big-Ass Amazingly Awesome Homosexual Sheep to have laser
>>> eyes!
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 2:04 PM, Jehan Tremback <
>>> jehan.tremback at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> NO. I hate sudo room >:-|
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 1:57 PM, Max B <maxb.personal at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hahaha yeah on second thought I'm not actually curious why you would
>>>>> say that. I'm happy to let it be a hole in my knowledge of the world.
>>>>>
>>>>> We can (probably?) all agree that a sudoroom crowdfunding project
>>>>> would be more admirable than a lot of others on kickstarter?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu 30 May 2013 01:52:50 PM PDT, Jehan Tremback wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Drama incoming...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 1:44 PM, Max B <maxb.personal at gmail.com
>>>>>> <mailto:maxb.personal at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Also Burning Man does not need queering."...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> what makes you say that?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu 30 May 2013 01:27:18 PM PDT, Andrew wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No, I think a giant sheep that you enter through the ass is
>>>>>> way less
>>>>>> admirable than making a crowd funded movie. I think crowd
>>>>>> funded
>>>>>> movies are extremely important, given what traditional
>>>>>> funding has
>>>>>> done to the creativity of film.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also Burning Man does not need queering.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 12:49 PM, Max B
>>>>>> <maxb.personal at gmail.com <mailto:maxb.personal at gmail.com>
>>>>>> <mailto:maxb.personal at gmail.__com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <mailto:maxb.personal at gmail.com>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Eh I think that queering burningman is a much more
>>>>>> admirable goal
>>>>>> than, say, Zach Braff being able to produce his little pet
>>>>>> project
>>>>>> (with $3mil...)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.kickstarter.com/____projects/1869987317/wish-i-____was-here-1
>>>>>> <
>>>>>> http://www.kickstarter.com/__projects/1869987317/wish-i-__was-here-1>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <
>>>>>> http://www.kickstarter.com/__projects/1869987317/wish-i-__was-here-1
>>>>>> <
>>>>>> http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1869987317/wish-i-was-here-1>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu 30 May 2013 12:38:50 PM PDT, Andrew wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> These people got over $10,000 to build a giant gay
>>>>>> sheep for
>>>>>> Burning Man
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.kickstarter.com/____projects/391007482/baaahs-big-____ass-amazingly-awesome-____homosexual-sheep
>>>>>> <
>>>>>> http://www.kickstarter.com/__projects/391007482/baaahs-big-__ass-amazingly-awesome-__homosexual-sheep>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <
>>>>>> http://www.kickstarter.com/__projects/391007482/baaahs-big-__ass-amazingly-awesome-__homosexual-sheep
>>>>>> <
>>>>>> http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/391007482/baaahs-big-ass-amazingly-awesome-homosexual-sheep
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, dream big Sudoers, if they can do it so can you...
>>>>>>
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>>>>>> http://roshambomedia.com
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