[sudo-discuss] Just a reminder of how ridiculous crowd funding is
GtwoG PublicOhOne
g2g-public01 at att.net
Thu May 30 22:03:48 PDT 2013
Yo Andrew, you're OK and I know you're not a homophobe. Your statements
didn't come across as homophobic _at all_. Mildly sarcastic yes,
homophobic no. Sarcasm is good, no apologies needed.
I've seen some pretty obnoxo bits come across these tubes, including
nasty ad-hominems, assertions of superiority, category put-downs, and "I
refuse to hear you" stuff. Most of that seems to me to be psychological
defensiveness, heated-up by dynamics such as you pointed out in your
article excerpt yesterday, plus the usual outcomes of a hybridized
communications medium that's part conversation, part broadcast, delayed
rather than realtime, and minus all nonverbal cues.
Generally the sting wears off after a few days and then it's over & done
with. Contrast to: imagine if every conversation you ever had at a pub,
was preserved for posterity and searchable under your name. (The idea
that this stuff needs to be indexed & searchable is more than a little
narcissistic: to quote someone I was hanging out with last night, are we
really so important?)
Knowing the person at the other end of the wire, and being able to
translate their writing into their spoken voice, makes many of those
issues disappear. In my mind's ear I hear you telling sheep jokes.
They're not bad, for sheep jokes;-)
OK, so who's going to launch a Kickstarter to build another giant gay sheep?
Or how'bout a couple of giant lesbian sheep? With audio chips &
speakers, so they can say to each other, "Baaa-aaa-aaa, I love ewe!" and
"Baa-aa-aaa, I love ewe too!"
-G.
On 13-05-30-Thu 9:22 PM, Andrew wrote:
>
> I realize that my statements may have come of as homophobic. I
> apollogize and would be more that happy to talk about it in person or
> otherwise directly with anyone who wants to.
>
> On May 30, 2013 7:55 PM, "GtwoG PublicOhOne" <g2g-public01 at att.net
> <mailto:g2g-public01 at att.net>> wrote:
>
>
> I'm gay & Andrew's cool with me & has no issues with gay folks
> generally. Just in case anyone thinks otherwise (incoming
> drama-missile intercept launched).
>
> OK, so: what to do about that sheep:
>
> Start another kickstarter to build another gay sheep, so there'll
> be two of them and they can go out on dates together.
>
> -G.
>
>
>
>
> On 13-05-30-Thu 2:17 PM, Matthew Meier wrote:
>> As "a gay" I think everything needs more queering :D
>>
>> -Wolfy
>>
>>
>> On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 2:11 PM, Andrew <andrew at roshambomedia.com
>> <mailto:andrew at roshambomedia.com>> wrote:
>>
>> This project just made $200 in the last hour. Someone at Sudo
>> Room really wants the Big-Ass Amazingly Awesome Homosexual
>> Sheep to have laser eyes!
>>
>>
>> On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 2:04 PM, Jehan Tremback
>> <jehan.tremback at gmail.com <mailto:jehan.tremback at gmail.com>>
>> wrote:
>>
>> NO. I hate sudo room >:-|
>>
>>
>> On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 1:57 PM, Max B
>> <maxb.personal at gmail.com
>> <mailto:maxb.personal at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Hahaha yeah on second thought I'm not actually
>> curious why you would say that. I'm happy to let it
>> be a hole in my knowledge of the world.
>>
>> We can (probably?) all agree that a sudoroom
>> crowdfunding project would be more admirable than a
>> lot of others on kickstarter?
>>
>>
>> On Thu 30 May 2013 01:52:50 PM PDT, Jehan Tremback wrote:
>>
>> Drama incoming...
>>
>>
>> On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 1:44 PM, Max B
>> <maxb.personal at gmail.com
>> <mailto:maxb.personal at gmail.com>
>> <mailto:maxb.personal at gmail.com
>> <mailto:maxb.personal at gmail.com>>> wrote:
>>
>> "Also Burning Man does not need queering."...
>>
>> what makes you say that?
>>
>>
>> On Thu 30 May 2013 01:27:18 PM PDT, Andrew wrote:
>>
>> No, I think a giant sheep that you enter
>> through the ass is
>> way less
>> admirable than making a crowd funded
>> movie. I think crowd funded
>> movies are extremely important, given
>> what traditional funding has
>> done to the creativity of film.
>>
>> Also Burning Man does not need queering.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 12:49 PM, Max B
>> <maxb.personal at gmail.com
>> <mailto:maxb.personal at gmail.com>
>> <mailto:maxb.personal at gmail.com
>> <mailto:maxb.personal at gmail.com>>
>> <mailto:maxb.personal at gmail.
>> <mailto:maxb.personal at gmail.>__com
>>
>> <mailto:maxb.personal at gmail.com
>> <mailto:maxb.personal at gmail.com>>>> wrote:
>>
>> Eh I think that queering burningman
>> is a much more
>> admirable goal
>> than, say, Zach Braff being able to
>> produce his little pet
>> project
>> (with $3mil...)
>>
>>
>> http://www.kickstarter.com/____projects/1869987317/wish-i-____was-here-1
>>
>> <http://www.kickstarter.com/__projects/1869987317/wish-i-__was-here-1>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> <http://www.kickstarter.com/__projects/1869987317/wish-i-__was-here-1
>>
>> <http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1869987317/wish-i-was-here-1>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu 30 May 2013 12:38:50 PM PDT,
>> Andrew wrote:
>>
>> These people got over $10,000 to
>> build a giant gay
>> sheep for
>> Burning Man
>>
>>
>> http://www.kickstarter.com/____projects/391007482/baaahs-big-____ass-amazingly-awesome-____homosexual-sheep
>>
>> <http://www.kickstarter.com/__projects/391007482/baaahs-big-__ass-amazingly-awesome-__homosexual-sheep>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> <http://www.kickstarter.com/__projects/391007482/baaahs-big-__ass-amazingly-awesome-__homosexual-sheep
>>
>> <http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/391007482/baaahs-big-ass-amazingly-awesome-homosexual-sheep>>
>>
>> So, dream big Sudoers, if they
>> can do it so can you...
>>
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