[sudo-discuss] Oakland Nights Live - Clean Up?

[Max Klein]

I'll reply inline.


On 12 May 2013 22:10, rusty lindgren <rustylindgren at gmail.com> wrote:

> Sure, no problem,
>
> Around 1:30AM:
>

I left at 10:45PM on Friday, and Oakland Nights live had finished cleaning
and were not in the building any more.

>
> 1. Double doors by front entrance blocked with black furniture at around
>  this morning.
>

That was not the state when I left, which was after ONL had left.

>
> 2. Pile of stuff next to vaccuum that wasn't cleaned by the double doors.
>

Are you talking about the entrance to Sudo? Was it the shop vac? Because we
didn't lend them our shop vac.

>
> 3. Plates and food on the ground near sudoroom doors.
>

That was not the state when I left, so I think this happened post 10:30 and
post-ONL.


> 4. Bottles/Cans left out.
>

I did not witness Bottles/Cans left in the common room.


> 5. Strong smell of cigarette smoke in stairs by my office to the point of
> which it smelled like an ash tray.
>

I did witness guests of ONL smoking outside the ground entrance doors.
Probably not 25 feet away.

6. Signs up everywhere downstairs still.
>

I also noticed they didn't take down some paper signs attached to the wall
with masking tape.

>
> I snapped a few photos of some of the mess left, even though Romy/Jordan
> cleaning up.
>

I saw sudoers sitting there after ONL had left and had cleaned the common
area.


>  Last time, George was yelling while the same people + Matt were cleaning
> up.
>
> My intention was to point out that there have been messes, and this was an
> example.  I'm not saying that nobody tried cleaning, but the results were
> bad.
>

I hear your frustration with cleanliness. I think that some people did try
cleaning, and later the space was made more messy, so not all the mess is
attributable to any one group in specific. Thanks for making us aware of
what can be done better, its really important we all work together on the
cleaning issue.

You're all awesome and competent critical humans (well
half-human-half-sudoers).
Max

>
> -Rusty
>
> On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 9:56 PM, Max Klein <isalix at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>  I hear Rusty's complaint of cleanliness. and  I want to speak in
>> defense of Oakland Nights Live. I didn't see you at Oakland Nights Live, so
>> I imagine you showed up after the event was over?
>> I saw them vacuum and pick up and vacuum the common area too a high level
>> of cleanliness. Maybe the front ground floor entry way was more dirty.
>> Rusty perhaps you could be more specific about what was wrong, because I
>> have a different understanding of their cleaning practices. Maybe it got
>> dirty inbetween when you saw it and when they cleaned it. If so then I feel
>> you are speculating on where the dirtiness came from.
>>
>> Jenny, . I also didn't see you at ONL, and during the hour following. I
>> read that you sent an email to Oakland Nights Live with the phrasing "we
>> can no longer..." at some point. I feel upset that you did so because I
>> want messages claiming to be from sudo as "we" to be approved by all
>> sudoers before they're sent.  I would like to request that you don't send
>> messages on behalf of sudo without consensus in the future.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Max
>>
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>
>
> --
> Cheers,
>
> Rusty Lindgren
> **
>
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