[sudo-discuss] cuddling it

Eddan Katz eddan at clear.net
Wed May 8 12:06:00 PDT 2013


Thanks.
That was really helpful in understanding where you're coming from.

sent from eddan.com

On May 8, 2013, at 12:03 PM, hep <dis at gruntle.org> wrote:

> I am crazy busy. but here is bullet points on why this whole thing is bad.  
> 
> 1. We already covered the long history of erasure and co-optation of the struggles and terminology of POC by white feminism, and the fight that POC women have had to participate in, on-going to this day, to carve out space for them and their issues. 
> 
> 2. Rachel, I believe, already covered the fact that even as we struggle to reinvent language, there is still an often very recent usage, or still on-going usage of those words that the oppressed group referred to is still subjected to. 
> 
> 3. Why does every fight about language reclamation come back to letting some white guy reuse the n word? 
> 
> 4. Why do white people always want so very badly to use that word, or qualify use by others, as if there is some universal group of oppressed minorities that meets and all agrees to not be offended by certain usages? 
> 
> 5. which brings me to: not everyone is going to feel the same about every word. of course one person might see a use of a word in a certain context as not offensive, particularly if that person had never been seriously subjected to that word as applied to them. 
> 
> 6. why does "reclamation" of the n word by white people always have to be negative? the problem with that song isn't just that black women are erased, it is also that that word is STILL A NEGATIVE TERM. he just broadened the definition. How is this reclamation at all? Why does some white guy think THIS is the issue and the way he should address it? Why is it always like this? Why do we need to use the n word or other common black deragatory tropes to make a shocking statement about race in this country, without understanding that there is a good portion of the population who is still directly affected by those terms/actions/stereotypes to whom it isn't going to be a shocking statement at all, just another cliched co-optation of minority struggle for the attention of white audiences. 
> 
> 
> -hep
> 
> 



More information about the sudo-discuss mailing list