[sudo-discuss] cuddling it
Andrew
andrew at roshambomedia.com
Fri May 3 17:57:08 PDT 2013
I think you all really nailed it.
On May 3, 2013 3:44 PM, "Anthony Di Franco" <di.franco at gmail.com> wrote:
> Allow me to provide a walkthrough then.
> To be civilized is, here, to be part of a settled society with an elite
> that controls distribution of resources, social standing, and everything
> else it can, and therefore to give up one's own capacity to provide for
> oneself among peers those things, which includes giving up the use of
> violence to a caste approved by the elite to use violence only for ends
> compatible with its own. It can be contrasted with different flavors of
> being a barbarian, and my favorite way of doing this is Venkat Rao's here<http://www.ribbonfarm.com/2011/03/10/the-return-of-the-barbarian/>,
> which among many other things sheds some light on the broader significance
> of the rise of hackerspaces, I think.
> According to wikipedia <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noble_savage>, "The
> term *noble savage* (French, *bon sauvage*) expresses the concept of an
> idealized indigene, outsider, or "other<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Other>"
> and refers to the literary stock character<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stock_character>
> ."
> As lamented by Common in I Used to Love H.E.R<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C99iG4HoO1c>,
> playing to the not-so-noble-savage character of the violent, misogynist
> gangster to win the patronage of both elites psychologically craving a
> shadow other to project their own sins onto, and to subclasses craving the
> free exercise of their natural powers that they have given up in the
> process of becoming civilized that is perversely represented by the symbol
> of elite power and privilege projected onto the noble savage, is a key part
> of the story of the co-optation of hip-hop culture into the mainstream.
> So, of course, I have no reservations about saying such a thing in public.
>
>
> On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 3:22 PM, netdiva <netdiva at sonic.net> wrote:
>
>> Not rhetorical enough, but I'll leave this here for now.
>>
>>
>> On 5/3/2013 3:18 PM, Anthony Di Franco wrote:
>>
>>> No worries. My response was a rhetorical answer.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 3:16 PM, netdiva <netdiva at sonic.net <mailto:
>>> netdiva at sonic.net>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Dont worry, that was really just a rhetorical question.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 5/3/2013 3:11 PM, Anthony Di Franco wrote:
>>>
>>> Of course.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 3:08 PM, netdiva <netdiva at sonic.net<mailto:
>>> netdiva at sonic.net> <mailto:netdiva at sonic.net <mailto:netdiva at sonic.net>>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Â Â Did you actually just say this in public?
>>>
>>>
>>> Â Â On 5/3/2013 3:04 PM, Anthony Di Franco wrote:
>>>
>>> Â Â Â Â Doesn't the civilized psyche secretly crave the
>>> things it sets itself
>>> Â Â Â Â apart from and gives up and projects on its image of
>>> the noble savage
>>> Â Â Â Â though?
>>>
>>> Â Â Â Â Your description seems more like meditatively
>>> flowing through it.
>>>
>>>
>>> Â Â Â Â On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 2:58 PM, netdiva <
>>> netdiva at sonic.net <mailto:netdiva at sonic.net> <mailto:netdiva at sonic.net<mailto:
>>> netdiva at sonic.net>>
>>> Â Â Â Â <mailto:netdiva at sonic.net <mailto:netdiva at sonic.net>
>>> <mailto:netdiva at sonic.net <mailto:netdiva at sonic.net>>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Â Â Â Â Here I was thinking "killing it" was just another
>>> example of
>>> Â Â Â Â appropriation of african american vernacular by the
>>> mainstream.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Â Â Â Â On 5/3/2013 2:46 PM, Leonid Kozhukh wrote:
>>>
>>> Â Â Â Â "killing it" is a recently popular term to denote
>>> excellence and
>>> Â Â Â Â immense progress. it has a violent, forceful
>>> connotation.
>>>
>>> Â Â Â Â friends in the circus community - through empirical
>>> evidence - have
>>> Â Â Â Â established a belief that operating at the highest
>>> levels of talent
>>> Â Â Â Â requires mindfulness, awareness, and calm. thus, a
>>> better term, which
>>> Â Â Â Â they have started to playfully use, is "cuddling it."
>>>
>>> Â Â Â Â thought sudoers would appreciate this.
>>>
>>> Â Â Â Â cuddling it,
>>>
>>> Â Â Â Â -- len
>>>
>>> Â Â Â Â founder, ligertail http://ligertail.com
>>>
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