[sudo-discuss] cuddling it

Anthony Di Franco di.franco at gmail.com
Fri May 3 18:42:27 PDT 2013


I bow down to you, in a neofeudal gesture of respek.
On May 3, 2013 5:57 PM, "Andrew" <andrew at roshambomedia.com> wrote:

> I think you all really nailed it.
> On May 3, 2013 3:44 PM, "Anthony Di Franco" <di.franco at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Allow me to provide a walkthrough then.
>> To be civilized is, here, to be part of a settled society with an elite
>> that controls distribution of resources, social standing, and everything
>> else it can, and therefore to give up one's own capacity to provide for
>> oneself among peers those things, which includes giving up the use of
>> violence to a caste approved by the elite to use violence only for ends
>> compatible with its own. It can be contrasted with different flavors of
>> being a barbarian, and my favorite way of doing this is Venkat Rao's here<http://www.ribbonfarm.com/2011/03/10/the-return-of-the-barbarian/>,
>> which among many other things sheds some light on the broader significance
>> of the rise of hackerspaces, I think.
>> According to wikipedia <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noble_savage>,
>> "The term *noble savage* (French, *bon sauvage*) expresses the concept
>> of an idealized indigene, outsider, or "other<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Other>"
>> and refers to the literary stock character<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stock_character>
>> ."
>> As lamented by Common in I Used to Love H.E.R<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C99iG4HoO1c>,
>> playing to the not-so-noble-savage character of the violent, misogynist
>> gangster to win the patronage of both elites psychologically craving a
>> shadow other to project their own sins onto, and to subclasses craving the
>> free exercise of their natural powers that they have given up in the
>> process of becoming civilized that is perversely represented by the symbol
>> of elite power and privilege projected onto the noble savage, is a key part
>> of the story of the co-optation of hip-hop culture into the mainstream.
>> So, of course, I have no reservations about saying such a thing in public.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 3:22 PM, netdiva <netdiva at sonic.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Not rhetorical enough, but I'll leave this here for now.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 5/3/2013 3:18 PM, Anthony Di Franco wrote:
>>>
>>>> No worries. My response was a rhetorical answer.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 3:16 PM, netdiva <netdiva at sonic.net <mailto:
>>>> netdiva at sonic.net>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>     Dont worry, that was really just a rhetorical question.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     On 5/3/2013 3:11 PM, Anthony Di Franco wrote:
>>>>
>>>>         Of course.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 3:08 PM, netdiva <netdiva at sonic.net<mailto:
>>>> netdiva at sonic.net> <mailto:netdiva at sonic.net <mailto:netdiva at sonic.net>>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>         Â  Â  Did you actually just say this in public?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         Â  Â  On 5/3/2013 3:04 PM, Anthony Di Franco wrote:
>>>>
>>>>         Â  Â  Â  Â  Doesn't the civilized psyche secretly crave the
>>>> things it sets itself
>>>>         Â  Â  Â  Â  apart from and gives up and projects on its image
>>>> of the noble savage
>>>>         Â  Â  Â  Â  though?
>>>>
>>>>         Â  Â  Â  Â  Your description seems more like meditatively
>>>> flowing through it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         Â  Â  Â  Â  On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 2:58 PM, netdiva <
>>>> netdiva at sonic.net <mailto:netdiva at sonic.net> <mailto:netdiva at sonic.net<mailto:
>>>> netdiva at sonic.net>>
>>>>         Â  Â  Â  Â  <mailto:netdiva at sonic.net <mailto:netdiva at sonic.net>
>>>> <mailto:netdiva at sonic.net <mailto:netdiva at sonic.net>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>         Â  Â  Â  Â  Here I was thinking "killing it" was just another
>>>> example of
>>>>         Â  Â  Â  Â  appropriation of african american vernacular by the
>>>> mainstream.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         Â  Â  Â  Â  On 5/3/2013 2:46 PM, Leonid Kozhukh wrote:
>>>>
>>>>         Â  Â  Â  Â  "killing it" is a recently popular term to denote
>>>> excellence and
>>>>         Â  Â  Â  Â  immense progress. it has a violent, forceful
>>>> connotation.
>>>>
>>>>         Â  Â  Â  Â  friends in the circus community - through empirical
>>>> evidence - have
>>>>         Â  Â  Â  Â  established a belief that operating at the highest
>>>> levels of talent
>>>>         Â  Â  Â  Â  requires mindfulness, awareness, and calm. thus, a
>>>> better term, which
>>>>         Â  Â  Â  Â  they have started to playfully use, is "cuddling
>>>> it."
>>>>
>>>>         Â  Â  Â  Â  thought sudoers would appreciate this.
>>>>
>>>>         Â  Â  Â  Â  cuddling it,
>>>>
>>>>         Â  Â  Â  Â  -- len
>>>>
>>>>         Â  Â  Â  Â  founder, ligertail http://ligertail.com
>>>>
>>>>
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