[sudo-discuss] Sudo room should be about creating

[Anthony Di Franco]

Production of alternative energy can be and for most reasons probably
should be much less centralized, equivalently, smaller-scale, than
production of energy mostly is now. (Off-grid, as you mention, but very
literally.)
Large-scale up front + large, complex distribution networks is revealed as
an obsolete architecture; large scale distribution networks become
relatively less important, so even if the answer to your question is no,
which it probably isn't given crowdfunding and other disintermediated
finance gaining momentum, it's moot, or at least of much less relative
importance.
Put another way, when the most important goal is maximum efficiency rather
than maximum centralization, large upfront capital investment + large,
complex distribution network is stupid; proper
accounting<https://homebrewindustrialrevolution.wordpress.com/>of all
costs and benefits in a global rather than piecewise local sense
reveals this now for agriculture, manufacturing, energy, ...
Even now, buffering between supply and demand is a constraint on grid
architecture leading to great economic demand within the current paradigm
for distributed storage / production of energy according to someone who
came through sudo room whose name escapes me.
This loosely-drafted email brought to you by the
slogan<http://globalguerrillas.typepad.com/globalguerrillas/2010/11/eaas-non-rival-goods-vs-rival-goods.html>,
"localize production, virtualize everything
else"<http://www.miiu.org/wiki/Resilient_Things_by_Top-Level_Category>
and
the acronym STEMI <http://www.accelerationwatch.com/mest.html>
compression<http://globalguerrillas.typepad.com/globalguerrillas/2008/11/stemi.html>
.


On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 3:17 PM, Romy Ilano <romy at snowyla.com> wrote:

> Is it possible to create alternative energy distribution networks
> (biofuels/solar/ wind etc) that replace mainstream petrol and natural gas
> based energy without a large financial sector?
>
> the vc system that funds these alternative energy start-ups piggy backs
> off the investment banks, etc. and big private equity and institutional
> investment funds. vcs are like a fly on the @ss of a financial hippo.
>
> I haven't heard people discuss off-grid that much in the tech talks I've
> been to( which are excellent). Is there a conversation here that would show
> how off grid is a viable alternative, even if it's not a big money solution?
>
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> On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 1:56 PM, <hol at gaskill.com> wrote:
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>> this talk about imports and exports always reminds me of energy flow
>>
>> compare 2011
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>> https://www.llnl.gov/news/newsreleases/2012/Oct/images/25306_LLNLUSEnergy2011650.jpg
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>> with 2002
>> http://www.hubbertpeak.com/us/images/us_energyflow2002.jpg
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>> fascinating
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