[sudo-discuss] Dystopia Watch: Surveillance drones coming to a cafe near you.
Anon195714
anon195714 at sbcglobal.net
Tue Mar 5 13:51:38 PST 2013
Re. Rachel, "Or we could hold all of our meetings without devices, in
the fields and mountains, with birdsong our walls and the sky as our
roof."
YES. Good reminder and well-said. There are times and places where
it's liberating to not have any devices along. For example when going
for a swim.
-G.
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On 13-03-05-Tue 11:34 AM, rachel lyra hospodar wrote:
>
> What if everyone carried a device that captured what they were saying
> and replayed it, layered along with other recordings of their own voice?
>
> Or we could hold all of our meetings without devices, in the fields
> and mountains, with birdsong our walls and the sky as our roof.
>
> On Mar 5, 2013 11:22 AM, "Matthew D. Howell" <matthewdhowell at gmail.com
> <mailto:matthewdhowell at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> @Rachel The state of the technology for recognizing and separating
> patterns in audio is advanced enough to overcome that sort of thing.
> Every person's voice has a distinct signature that can be recognized.
> I would venture a guess that some kind of encrypted digital signal
> transmission would be the best way to keep any sonic communication
> private in the most extreme of situations. (most interested party with
> the best technology at their disposal)
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> On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 11:16 AM, rachel lyra hospodar
> <rachelyra at gmail.com <mailto:rachelyra at gmail.com>> wrote:
> > Wouldn't it need to be non-commercially available music, so they
> couldn't
> > just find the audio data of the track, invert its wave, and
> cancel it out of
> > the recording?
> >
> > CACOPHONY FOR THE REVOLUTION!
> >
> > mediumreality.com <http://mediumreality.com>
> >
> > On Mar 5, 2013 10:23 AM, "Steve Berl" <steveberl at gmail.com
> <mailto:steveberl at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>
> >> You could carry a boombox around playing loud music where ever
> you go.
> >> Perhaps this would be the end of earbuds. :-)
> >>
> >> On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 10:20 AM, Anthony Di Franco
> <di.franco at gmail.com <mailto:di.franco at gmail.com>>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> People have rendered surveillance cameras useless with very
> bright IR
> >>> LEDs in their fields of view.
> >>> Could something similar be done for sound recording devices?
> >>>
> >>> On Mar 5, 2013 6:17 AM, "Anon195714" <anon195714 at sbcglobal.net
> <mailto:anon195714 at sbcglobal.net>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Yo's-
> >>>>
> >>>> Something I forgot to add re. DARPA's desire for universal
> recording of
> >>>> face-to-face conversations.
> >>>>
> >>>> What's the ideal device for doing all that recording?
> >>>>
> >>>> How'bout something you wear? How'bout something that
> "everyone" wears?,
> >>>> or even a significant fraction of "everyone"?
> >>>>
> >>>> Like maybe Google Glasses.
> >>>>
> >>>> Always on, camera and mic always "connected" to "the cloud."
> Orwell's
> >>>> telescreen gone mobile.
> >>>>
> >>>> Everyone who wears them will become, in effect, _unpaid
> surveillance
> >>>> drones_ watching their family and friends, not from up in the
> sky, but
> >>>> from up close where every word can be heard.
> >>>>
> >>>> Some will say "oh, there's no stopping technology." People
> said that
> >>>> about the atomic bomb and the hydrogen bomb. But public
> outcry led
> >>>> first to treaties and then to progressive degrees of nuclear
> >>>> disarmament. We haven't used that technology since it was
> first used in
> >>>> WW2.
> >>>>
> >>>> We can stop pernicious tech if we choose. We can refuse, we can
> >>>> withdraw consent, we do not have to press the Buy button.
> >>>>
> >>>> Technology should liberate and empower people. "Conveniences
> with a few
> >>>> strings attached" are not liberation, they're puppet-strings.
> >>>>
> >>>> It's all about control: technology that you can control, vs.
> technology
> >>>> that can control you.
> >>>>
> >>>> -G.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> =====
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On 13-03-05-Tue 1:50 AM, Anon195714 wrote:
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Yo's-
> >>>> >
> >>>> > This just in:
> >>>> >
> >>>> > "DARPA wants to make [voice recognition/transcription]
> systems so
> >>>> > accurate, you'll be able to easily record, transcribe and
> recall all
> >>>> > the
> >>>> > conversations you ever have. ... Imagine living in a world
> where every
> >>>> > errant utterance you make is preserved forever. ... DARPA
> [awarded
> >>>> > U.Texas comp sci researcher Matt Lease]... $300,000... over
> two years
> >>>> > to
> >>>> > study the new project, called "Blending Crowdsourcing with
> Automation
> >>>> > for Fast, Cheap, and Accurate Analysis of Spontaneous Speech.""
> >>>> >
> >>>> > "The idea is that business meetings or even conversations
> with your
> >>>> > friends and family could be stored in archives and easily
> searched.
> >>>> > The
> >>>> > stored recordings could be held in servers, owned either by
> >>>> > individuals
> >>>> > or their employers. ... The answer, Lease says, is in
> widespread use
> >>>> > of
> >>>> > recording technologies like smartphones, cameras and audio
> >>>> > recorders...
> >>>> > [A] memorandum from the Congressional Research Service
> described [an
> >>>> > earlier DARPA project of this type known as] EARS, as
> focusing on
> >>>> > speech
> >>>> > picked up from broadcasts and telephone conversations, "as
> well as
> >>>> > extract clues about the identity of speakers" for "the
> military,
> >>>> > intelligence and law enforcement communities.""
> >>>> >
> >>>> > http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2013/03/darpa-speech/ (Yes,
> "real
> >>>> > geeks
> >>>> > don't read Wired," but nonetheless its news pages are
> useful for
> >>>> > keeping
> >>>> > a finger on the pulse of Big Brother and his corporate
> Brethren.)
> >>>> >
> >>>> > In short:
> >>>> >
> >>>> > DARPA is researching the means by which every conversation
> you have,
> >>>> > in-person, whether at work or with family or friends, gets
> picked up
> >>>> > by
> >>>> > the mic in your smartphone or other portable device, and
> stored on a
> >>>> > server, where DARPA's algorithms and human editors turn all
> of it into
> >>>> > fast-searchable text, that could be used by your employer, the
> >>>> > military,
> >>>> > law enforcement, and intel agencies. Presumably the credit
> bureaus,
> >>>> > insurance companies, and financial institutions will want
> "in" on the
> >>>> > data as well.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Now connect that with this, about cell-site tracking and
> call detail
> >>>> > records:
> >>>> >
> >>>> > "The government maintained [that] Americans have no
> expectation of
> >>>> > privacy of such cell-site records [call detail records or
> CDR] because
> >>>> > they are in the possession of a third party --- the mobile
> phone
> >>>> > companies."
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2013/03/gps-drug-dealer-retrial/
> >>>> >
> >>>> > The key point is that the gov's current position is that
> data stored
> >>>> > on
> >>>> > a third party's servers have "no expectation of privacy."
> What begins
> >>>> > with CDR will eventually include voicemail messages stored
> on the
> >>>> > mobile
> >>>> > phone companies' servers, and then eventually all of your live
> >>>> > in-person
> >>>> > conversations that are stored "in the cloud."
> >>>> >
> >>>> > "Anything you say can and will be used against you..." Mark
> my words.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Meanwhile people keep using gmail and Google Voice, and
> smartphones
> >>>> > from
> >>>> > which they can't remove the batteries. Because nothing is more
> >>>> > important
> >>>> > than "convenience," right?
> >>>> >
> >>>> > As a character in a sci-fi piece I wrote in the mid-1980s
> said, "Why
> >>>> > put
> >>>> > a person in prison, when you can put prison in the person
> instead?"
> >>>> >
> >>>> > -G.
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
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