[sudo-discuss] It's Unconscionable
Michael Scroggins
michaeljscroggins at gmail.com
Sun Mar 3 20:00:12 PST 2013
I think the statement is excellent, and I love how Eddan very cleverly
sets the lock picking class in the context of SudoRoom's own entrance
issues.
Michael
rusty lindgren wrote:
> I think links are good, and I wish there was a picture or two of some
> of us, or maybe a project that people in the public could see that we
> we're working on.
>
> -Rusty
>
> On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 3:41 PM, Eddan <eddan at clear.net
> <mailto:eddan at clear.net>> wrote:
>
> of course. please help correct and improve. also, was on the fence
> about using a bunch of links - wondering what others think.
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 3:22 PM, rusty lindgren
> <rustylindgren at gmail.com <mailto:rustylindgren at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Eddan,
>
> Would you consider revising to allow this POV?
>
> 1. Can you make it clear that not all members were okay with
> the treatment by the press, and that we invite them to
> publicly address us?
> 2. Can you put something in about how knowing more about your
> locks and those services could be leveraged against
> further scams, and that community programs can lead to
> less fraud, when awareness is raised?
> 3. Also, can we remove or revise this line: "We can certainly
> sympathize with the overwhelming task of responsibly
> editing a large amount of information such as what is in
> the Mayors’ newsletter."
> To me, I'm against apologizing for lock-picking classes,
> and this sounds like we're saying it shouldn't have been
> in there in the first place. I know it's hooked to
> something else you wrote, but I don't agree with it.
>
> If you want, I could revise the wording and send it back to
> you, and if anyone else wanted to help they could.
>
> Other than that, it's well written and classier than my
> response would be, which is good for the group :D.
>
> -Rusty
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 1:37 PM, Eddan <eddan at clear.net
> <mailto:eddan at clear.net>> wrote:
>
> Not sure how to append or collate this with Daniel's
> section, but included below is a draft of suggested
> comments I tried piecing together. I think that if we are
> to have a statement, that we should merge our various
> contributions to represent one voice. I'm not sure what
> platform is best to do this kind of thing on, but have had
> some positive experience with http://www.co-ment.com/.
>
>
> sent from eddan.com <http://eddan.com>
>
>
> ---
>
> To our community –
>
> It is in good conscience that we, the members of Sudo
> Room, host the Lock-Picking session at the Workshop
> Weekend taking place at 2141 Broadway [and Tech Liminal]
> today. As even a quick glance at the rest of the program
> would make clear, we are a diverse community of
> technologists, artists, and activists joined together by
> the ambition of figuring things out for ourselves and
> teaching other people how to do it.
>
> A further step back would reveal a context of free and
> open to the public educational opportunities covering
> everything from sewing recycled fabric into sustainable
> clothing; making vanilla extract to experiment with new
> flavors of ice cream; creating a transparent and
> democratic corporate governance; and indeed yes – taking
> locks apart and reverse engineering software.
>
> Regarding the option of calling a locksmith, an Oakland
> resident locked out of their house or car should be
> advised to read through the peer review websites carefully
> for reputable services before calling their number. It is
> our general belief that public safety is better served
> when the skills necessary to be hired as a locksmith, for
> example, are taught in classrooms rather than by picking
> it up in the actual commission of crimes.
>
> We share in our city’s mourning of the death of Kiante
> Campbell at the Art Murmur last month. Collectively and as
> individuals, we are also aware of and concerned about the
> alarming levels of crime in our neighborhoods. It is in
> fact those concerns that have made for the greatest
> challenges in offering an openly accessible entrance to
> our building. Being a horizontally-governed organization,
> the compromised option of only several people having the
> keys is problematic. We are now experimenting in our own
> space with ways that can increase security while
> preserving the privacy of the general public. We intend to
> share our results publicly on our website and wiki, as
> with all of our other projects, so that public safety in
> Oakland can be more effectively enforced.
>
> We regret that Mayor Quan stepped back from her support of
> the event, though we appreciate her support for our
> innovative programs that are bringing about an emergent
> start-up technology culture in downtown Oakland. We can
> certainly sympathize with the overwhelming task of
> responsibly editing a large amount of information such as
> what is in the Mayors’ newsletter. We intend for this
> unfortunate series of misunderstandings to be yet another
> incentive for us to work on some of the projects we’ve
> already started – those aimed towards more efficiently
> sorting through large volumes of information to allow for
> making editorial judgment calls more fairly.
>
> We would like to take this unsolicited opportunity to make
> our intentions clear with Police Chief Jordan and Mayor
> Quan. We have among us people who can contribute a great
> deal to solving our law enforcement technology problems
> and addressing the cyber-security concerns of critical
> infrastructure such as the Port of Oakland. We hope to get
> a chance to work together with our city’s leaders in
> bringing cutting-edge capacity building to the people of
> Oakland with sustainable and equitable economic
> structures. We are trying to be very conscientious about
> it – we welcome you to drop by one of our many events or
> visit our website for information about our initiatives.
>
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 12:51 PM, Daniel Finlay
> <namelessdan at gmail.com <mailto:namelessdan at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Anca's right, this is a huge opportunity.
>
> Lower dues, anyone?
>
> Here's my caricature of opportunism, feel free to tune
> down the tone to your tact level of preference:
>
> The admonition of lockpicking classes by the Mayor and
> Police Chief of Oakland are as unconscionable as the
> thefts they purport to be in fear of. While the
> alarmists claim that publicly available lockpicking
> classes may promote criminal activity, they lose sight
> that this class is in the context of a larger public
> enrichment.
>
> Despite being only a few months old, Sudoroom has
> already made itself host to a wide variety of
> educational, cooperative, and even marketable
> skill-building classes and events for hundreds of
> local residents. From programming computers and 3-D
> printing to curing cheese and modifying DNA, Sudo Room
> is a free, community sponsored place for fostering the
> collaborative creativity that comes with groups full
> of intellectual curiosity in a time of as much change
> and development as this one.
>
> In a time where people's opportunities might lead them
> to crime, perhaps we ought to provide better
> alternatives rather than stupefying the public as a
> form of self defense.
>
> Let us address the cause of this sickness rather than
> try to snuff out its symptoms, and give ourselves
> access to an unfettered flow of knowledge and
> opportunity. We encourage you to participate in this
> local renaissance, by visiting the Sudoroom yourself,
> and taking part in any of the classes of your
> interest. You can always find the upcoming events at
> sudoroom.org/calendar <http://sudoroom.org/calendar>,
> or just stop by almost any time to join your neighbors
> in their curious pursuits.
>
> Feel free to fork it at
> https://gist.github.com/flyswatter/5070131
>
> -Dan
>
>
>
> On Mar 1, 2013, at 11:27 PM, Anca Mosoiu
> <anca at techliminal.com <mailto:anca at techliminal.com>>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 6:35 PM, Michael Scroggins
>> <michaeljscroggins at gmail.com
>> <mailto:michaeljscroggins at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> The sentence implicitly draws a difference of
>> kind between the lock picking class and the other
>> Workshop Weekend classes. Doing so invites the
>> question: What is the difference that makes
>> broadcasting this workshop (in the way it was)
>> regrettable? In an environment where the mayor,
>> the chief of police and the media have all given
>> the same answer - the class breeds criminals -
>> allowing that question is regrettable.
>>
>>
>> It's regrettable because it gave some easy pickings
>> for the people who want to portray Oakland, and the
>> current administration, in a certain way. Many of the
>> people who are upset about the workshop aren't upset
>> about lockpicking, they're upset that Jean Quan
>> appears to encourage crime in her newsletter.
>>
>> It's regrettable because it sucked up airwaves and
>> mental effort that might have been better spent.
>>
>> Drafting a reasoned and reasonable response lowers
>> the blood pressure of the people who are up in arms
>> just because they aren't informed. Some of them will
>> come around, especially if they understand the actual
>> intent of the class.
>>
>> Eddan, I'd like to participate in writing a
>> statement. I was really taken aback when I read some
>> of the emails and talked to some of the people who
>> were actually upset.
>>
>> The media storm will blow over with the next
>> foot-in-mouth opportunity from a local politician,
>> but we have a great opportunity to reach out while
>> the world is looking.
>>
>> Anca.
>>
>> --
>> -=-=-=-
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> Rusty Lindgren
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