[sudo-discuss] scanning electron microscope

[Steve Berl]

This sounds like a really cool toy.
I have a minivan, which with the seats removed is about 4x8 ft inside.
Would that be big enough to move it?
When does it have to happen? I have to fit it into my son's band tour
schedule (www.fevercharm.com).

-steve


On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 1:43 PM, Chris Murphy <chrisnoisebridge at gmail.com>wrote:

> Everything Jake said is correct but I would add that Noisebridge has
> licked the vibration problem by building the cantilevered shelf. Our latest
> problem is that we need a sputter coater and that we have a lot of bad
> apples degenerating the tools and burdening the community with problems. If
> we could solve this latter problem, there would be a lot more incentive to
> pour human energy into the SEM room. I haven't given up on building out our
> SEM room, I've just had to prioritize my life around the ambitions that I
> think will be most successful or productive.  We need to solve some big
> problems with Noisebridge before getting entangled in the minutia of
> building a science lab among the chaos. In some ways, solving the social
> problems at Noisebridge are a more challenging and interesting problem set
> than the science lab.
>
> I will be happy to help with the sudo room SEM, especially if they get a
> sputter coater. In fact, we only need one sputter coater to share between
> hacker spaces. I guess we could just have a bake sale and buy one for $1500
> to $3k.
>
> Chris
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jun 11, 2013, at 13:15, Jake <jake at spaz.org> wrote:
>
> > I'm sure that Dr. X would be very pleased if it went to Counter Culture
> Labs.  He just wants it to be understood and appreciated, rather than
> sitting neglected.  CCL should hurry up and buy the church building before
> the price goes up on it, and I can help transport it.
> >
> > It is basically an equipment rack and a cart of accessories, so it
> doesn't take up a ton of room.  But it's good to be able to set the
> microscope and vacuum pump on different structures so that the vibration of
> the pump doesn't shake the scope.  Also, to take higher resolution pictures
> it will be necessary to construct an analog data importer but that will
> likely just be a computer with a slightly modified sound card and some
> software.
> >
> > keep in mind that to view organic (nonmetallic) things you will need a
> gold sputterer.
> >
> > -jake
> >
> > On Tue, 11 Jun 2013, Ryan Bethencourt wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Jake,
> >> I'd be very happy to help transport the scanning electron microscope
> and if
> >> it can't fit into Sudo Room, I'd also love to float the idea of
> potentially
> >> housing it at Counter Culture Labs (the Sudo room DIY Bio offshoot)
> when we
> >> eventually open up. Any thoughts?
> >> How big is the SEM (I know some of them can be huge which might prohibit
> >> location)?
> >> All the best,
> >> Ryan
> >> Best,
> >> Ryan
> >> On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 6:33 PM, Jake <jake at spaz.org> wrote:
> >>      sudoroom is being offered a scanning electron microscope (by Dr.
> >>      X).
> >>
> >>      it comes with all the stuff and actually works, but it requires
> >>      a bit of knowledge to operate it.  unfortunately Mr. X is not
> >>      available to train us how to operate it, however Chris Murphy
> >>      may be available and knows how it works.
> >>
> >>      It would take up about 30 square feet of space including the
> >>      place where the operators sit or stand.  It is not computerized
> >>      like the one at Pumping Station One, it is an analog machine.
> >>       Pictures can be taken at high resolution by long-exposure photo
> >>      of the CRT on the front of the machine, or we can build an
> >>      analog data importer to reconstruct images at much higher
> >>      resolution if we desire.
> >>
> >>      The cash price of this SEM is $10 in gas and tolls, I will
> >>      provide the vehicle and movement.  The rest of the price of the
> >>      machine in blood and sacrifice is in the time and energy to
> >>      learn its intricicies and idiosynchracies while learning about
> >>      vacuum pumps and vacuum oil, and how not to let vacuum oil
> >>      contaminate your vacuum and get all over your filament.
> >>
> >>      https://noisebridge.net/wiki/SEM
> >>
> >>      ironically, one of the reasons it doesn't work as well at
> >>      noisebridge is because the whole place shakes when the city
> >>      buses ride by.  and sudoroom is apparently directly over the
> >>      bart tunnel so i wonder how different it will be.
> >>
> >>      -jake
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> >> Tel: (415) 825 2705
> >> ryan.bethencourt at gmail.com
> >> www.bamh1.com
> >> www.linkedin.com/in/bethencourt
> >> www.logos-press.com/books/biotechnology_business_development.php
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-steve
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