[sudo-discuss] Conflict resolution item for Wednesday meeting

Matthew Senate mattsenate at gmail.com
Mon Dec 9 22:01:44 PST 2013


"I received word from George our landlord that Timon is banned from the
property. His presence in sudo room jeopardizes our lease, and therefore he
is not welcome. This has been communicated to Timon, and some other sudoers
who were around this weekend are aware as well."

On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 5:59 PM, Timon <timondocent at gmail.com> wrote:

>  Since I'll be at the meeting, that will be a convenient time to have me
> arrested, if anyone wishes.
>
> -------- Original Message --------  Subject: RE: Expulsion from common
> area  Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2013 00:08:53 -0800  From: Laurie Cooperman Rosen
> <Lscoop at comcast.net> <Lscoop at comcast.net>  To: 'Timon'
> <timondocent at gmail.com> <timondocent at gmail.com>
>
> p.s. the police came, but we thought it had been cancelled.  They were
> called because Matt said that you were bothering people, not because George
> said that you can't be in there.  Matt called us, we didn't call him.
> Neither George nor I was privy to what led up to his call.  Sonitrol called
> the police and gave them Matt's #.  The Police called Matt and Matt said
> that you had left the room and that they didn't need to come, so we thought
> it was done.  An hour later we got a call from Matt; they showed up anyway
> and George had to run down there.  Not what we wanted on a Sunday eve.
> L
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Timon [mailto:timondocent at gmail.com <timondocent at gmail.com>]
> Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2013 10:54 PM
> To: Laurie Cooperman Rosen
> Subject: Expulsion from common area
>
> On Friday night after we talked (sometime after 6:15PM, when he'd required
> me to take his appointment), or perhaps between when I made my Monday
> appointment with you yesterday (Saturday) afternoon and when I got back from
> my volunteer/internship gig at about 6pm, George seems to have decided my
> alleged "second chance" (as in "everyone deserves a second chance") was
> retroactively canceled, and told people I was "not allowed" in the building.
>
> After Sudo (Matt) asked me yesterday -- because of some direct communication
> from George I do not know about (between 1:45PM and 6ish
> PM) not to be in the Sudo room part of the common area yesterday night, and
> out of respect for not wanting to put sudo room (the group: my friends and
> colleagues, acquaintances and primary social millieu and
> support) in a difficult place, I retrieved a few possessions and donations
> and then  left both sudo room's room and their common area section, and have
> not returned, as I told everyone I would not.
>
> Tonight, as I was peacefully eating my dinner and listening to a good
> physics and game-theory lecture/conversation from OUTSIDE of the Sudo area
> today, Matt handed me a phone, and said it was George. (I told George I was
> recording it, mid-call, and he did not voice objection).
>
> Per George, Matt had asked that I be required to leave. After George hung up
> on me, saying he'd called the cops and would not "repeat himself " as I
> asked for clarification, I found out the request didn't come from George.
>
> I will not be in the common area, unless invited by The Public School, until
> we talk. I doubt I would even if so invited, out of respect for anyone else
> who should be spared this drama.
>
> Feel free to cancel the call to the cops or not, as you see fit.
>
> -Timon
>
>
>
>
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