[sudo-discuss] Michael Orange - film events - Battle for Brooklyn - any sudo members interested in an intro?

[Marina Kukso]

hi george,

i'm very sorry that you feel that you did not consent to having this
information public. this list has been publicly archived since it began and
i think that we've tried to make that clear (although it seems that we may
need to be doing a better job!).

unfortunately i'm not sure to what extent the "welcome to sudo-discuss
list" email that new list members receive includes information about
content being publicly archived (could someone help with this?), but
perhaps we may need to make this more explicit in that letter.

for additional background on why we made the decision to publicly archive
contents, the idea is not necessarily to promote "transparency and
openness" as a matter of principle only, but because part of what we wanted
to do with sudo room is to make our history as easy for others to use as
possible so that others who are starting and running hackerspaces can learn
from our experience and discussion. in other words, to facilitate
ctrl-c/ctrl-v of hackerspaces around the world.

- marina


On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 10:29 AM, Anon195714 <anon195714 at sbcglobal.net>wrote:

>
>
> Right, and when you slip LSD into the fruit punch at a party and don't
> tell anyone, do you justify that by saying you're trying to encourage
> enlightenment?   Who needs informed consent anyway, right?  Hey, who needs
> consent of any kind?
>
> Sorry yo, that don't go.  It's NON CONSENSUAL, like seducing someone and
> failing to disclose to them that you have STDs.  It's a trust-break in a
> big way.
>
> I'm asserting my right to put this on the meeting agenda for next
> Wednesday, and pull in any record of anything I signed that contained TOS.
>
> Let me be really clear about this:  I'm as serious as a fucking heart
> attack about this, and anyone who thinks it's a joke is fucking sick.
>
> This "open and transparent" stuff is starting to become a chant fit for a
> cult, that short-circuits reason and critical thinking.  In reality it's a
> house of one-way mirrors foisted by the powerful on the masses to enable
> "prediction and control" down to the level of the individual.
>
> Enough was enough long ago, just like muggings and the rest of it.
>
> -G.
>
>
>
> =====
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> On 13-04-11-Thu 10:07 AM, mattsenate at gmail.com wrote:
>
> We set the list up to be public in an effort to remain as transparent and
> open as possible. This is a blessing and a burden. We should be mindful of
> the scope of our language and interested in maintaining private
> conversation off the list.
>
> Additionally, if you seek a lot of privacy, I don't recommend
> communicating over the internet if it can be helped.
>
> // Matt
>
> ----- Reply message -----
> From: "Tracy Jacobs" <kinetical at comcast.net> <kinetical at comcast.net>
> To: "Romy Ilano" <romy at snowyla.com> <romy at snowyla.com>
> Cc: "sudo-discuss" <sudo-discuss at lists.sudoroom.org><sudo-discuss at lists.sudoroom.org>
> Subject: [sudo-discuss] Michael Orange - film events - Battle for Brooklyn
> - any sudo members interested in an intro?
> Date: Thu, Apr 11, 2013 9:54 AM
>
>
> Sudoers,
>
>  Why does our discussion list have to be published on the internet?  I
> don't personally want  it to be that public.  Who decided it should be done
> that way, and is there another option?
>
>  Tracy
>  On Apr 10, 2013, at 12:32 PM, Romy Ilano <romy at snowyla.com> wrote:
>
>  Hey  here is one of the film events that Michael Orange from top 10
> social is presenting.
>
>
>
> https://www.facebook.com/events/563556023675662/?notif_t=plan_user_invited
>
>  Michael's also working with the Oakland Library as well,so I'll mention
> the history wki people from sudoroom are there!
>
>
>  this probably isn't necessary for anyone here... but in case one or two
> people gets the temptation:
>
>  -- Michael Orange is an all around good guy--please treat him well,
> minimize over the top business plans, "industry type behavior", and
> approach him as you would a family member. If we talk to him the wrong way
> it will be a smear on my reputation and his opinion matters a lot to me. =D
>
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