[Mesh] [FNF] Fwd: grant

[Mitar]

Hi!

> apart from that, i also fail to see the competition when two or more
> groups present different proposals to the same call:
> no matter which of them win, that means money coming in for the
> mesh/wifi/floss big community, which produce libre software, which means
> everyone wins

Some interesting comments on this topic:

http://david.heinemeierhansson.com/2013/the-perils-of-mixing-open-source-and-money.html

"It also holds the threat of corrupting the community at large. We plant
the seeds of discontent by selective monetary rewards. If project A gets
funded, it implicitly signals increased comparative worth over project
B. Now the makers of project B might well grow dissatisfied with their
lack of compensation, and their intrinsic motivation too take a hit.

It's easy to discount such discontent as silly. Why should the makers of
project B care what happens in project A? How is their lot any worse
because what others choose to do. That's the intellectually superficial
response."


Mitar

>> I'm sketching out some ideas for MeshThePlanet.org and would love y'allz
>> input. I'd like to model it after the hackerspaces.org
>> <http://hackerspaces.org> wiki and put the libre-map project on it,
>> links to folks' documentation / blog feeds, and include resources such
>> as funding opportunities and upcoming conferences and events.
> 
> +1! a much needed resource
> 
> cheers!
> 
>>
>> Jenny
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>>
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>> On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 8:34 AM, Isaac Wilder
>> <isaac at freenetworkmovement.org <mailto:isaac at freenetworkmovement.org>>
>> wrote:
>>
>>     I tend to agree.
>>     We probably won't be able to contribute to an effort on our end,
>>     based on the
>>     time constraints. Just know that as far as I'm concerned, if we
>>     *did* have
>>     time, I would certainly want to do it in collaboration with SudoMesh.
>>
>>     Rising tides and all ships and such.
>>     Not trying to poach!
>>
>>
>>     imw
>>
>>     On Thu, Dec 05, 2013 at 04:00:33AM -0800, Mitar wrote:
>>      > Hi!
>>      >
>>      > Sorry, but I really believe that we should be sharing such
>>     opportunities
>>      > as wide as possible with everybody, whoever applies and gets some
>>     money
>>      > is a win for everybody.
>>      >
>>      > And based on my experience main reason why projects are not
>> getting
>>      > money is not competition when applying, but lack of time and
>>     menpower to
>>      > apply. So spreading information about such opportunities as
>> wide as
>>      > possible just increases the probability that at least in our
>> social
>>      > network will apply.
>>      >
>>      >
>>      > Mitar
>>      >
>>      > > It would seem we should maybe keep funding opportunities
>>     off-list (private
>>      > > email or at meetings), but thanks for the heads up, Ryan!
>>      > > On Dec 4, 2013 1:18 PM, "Charles N Wyble"
>>     <charles at knownelement.com <mailto:charles at knownelement.com>> wrote:
>>      > >
>>      > >> Should we apply for this?
>>      > >>
>>      > >>
>>      > >> -------- Original Message --------
>>      > >> From: Ryan Evans <ryanlyleevans at gmail.com
>>     <mailto:ryanlyleevans at gmail.com>>
>>      > >> Sent: Wed Dec 04 12:02:43 CST 2013
>>      > >> To: mesh at lists.sudoroom.org <mailto:mesh at lists.sudoroom.org>
>>      > >> Subject: [Mesh] grant
>>      > >>
>>      > >> Via BoingBoing, a $10k technology
>>      > >>
>>    
>> grant<http://www.tides.org/impact/awards-prizes/pizzigati-prize/>(proposal
>>
>>      > >> due friday)
>>      > >>
>>      > >>
>>      > >>
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